r/SMRTRabak 2d ago

SMRT cares ❤️ Navigating the CCL

From LTA

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u/Intrepid_Tradition82 2d ago

Looks like a big Q. It’s the Question Line.

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u/cherriesintherain_ 2d ago

haha. they shld make ccl extension from dhoby ghaut to botanic gardens so it can be a stop sign. then we can call it the "big no" line.

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u/FocusEnough 1d ago

I still don't understand how clockwise and anti-clockwise is confusing. Is someone able to explain why it's confusing? I thought it was pretty straight forward

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u/Christianmonk3y 1d ago

It's universally accepted except that digital watch mean young people need retraining...

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u/FocusEnough 1d ago

In LTA's Facebook comments, the argument was more that *seniors* had a hard time understanding, not young people. Which makes it even more confusing

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u/mrfoxesite-2377 1d ago

I mean LRTs have analogue clocks but most of them have run out of battery...

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u/whitedogsuk 1d ago

If you are in the north and you want to travel east you go clock-wise, but anti-clockwise if you are in the south and want to travel east. If you are in the west and want to travel east you go either clock-wise or anticlockwise.

However if you want to change lines to take a more direct route, you may need to go up or down a few stations which is anti-clockwise if you are in the east, and clockwise for the west.

But you then you have to navigate the MRT signs and directions which after several escalators you always find you are in the wrong train and direction.

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u/mrfoxesite-2377 1d ago

Only Paya Lebar, Bayfront and Promenade have this problem for not being fully island (Paya Lebar is but the middle platform stops you from changing at platform level and Bayfront technically is but for a completely different line).

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u/114514191 1d ago

I think the main confusion comes from the split of Dhoby Gaunt and Marina Bay

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u/nvbtable 15h ago

Some people don't know what those terms mean or dont know what direction a clock's hands turn or how to visualise an imaginary clock on a non-clock image

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u/Main-Let-5867 1d ago

This is peak-levelled visual guidance design. Amazing. Wish metro in my hometown had directed some of the infrastructure expense onto things like these.

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u/theonewhoisnotcrazy 1d ago

They had to explain clockwise means it's in the same direction as the clock's hands omg

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u/sagi271190 1d ago

Imagine an uproar because PSLE math set a question asking students to interpret an analog clock, and they complain because they had little exposure to analog clocks.

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u/twilightaurorae 1d ago

I mean if PSLE math set a question that was not taught that is a problem isn't it.

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u/markerb0y 13h ago

it's supposed to be common sense.

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u/tarinotmarchon 1d ago

Some people don't use analog clock already mah.

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u/MrCoconutShake 1d ago

It should be a basic thing taught in schools bruh 😭 it's abit embarassing if u dont know how to read analog clock.. in school i remember they had questions with analog clock.

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u/theonewhoisnotcrazy 1d ago

So true. Regardless of whether we use analog clock or not, clockwise is still a concept. I can't think of another word that means exactly that. It's not just directional, so 'right' and 'forward' don't cut it.

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u/EllerTakesTheMaroon 1d ago

I m probably gonna get slimed but this is honestly quite simple and in-your-face already. It is confusing to some at first but eventually people will get used to it. This ain’t the worse I’ve seen for a circular service ngl (at least they didn’t go with inner and outer loops)

My only issue is that the dot matrix board at the exit points (slide 5) only now shows 1 train per platform arrival status and not the following train anymore, which is a bummer

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u/Clear_Entry_3056 2d ago

So confusing especially if you rarely take ccl

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u/Icywaterr 1d ago

what exactly is confusing about clockwise and anticlockwise?

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u/Clear_Entry_3056 1d ago

Long words don't look good. Human nature. We prefer simpler things.

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u/Icywaterr 1d ago

how much simpler can we get than clockwise and anticlockwise in a circle?

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u/Clear_Entry_3056 1d ago

Idk man but cus both sides sounds super similar too it can get confusing

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u/Keys6Mouse 2d ago

Why all these extra rules? Just make whether or not the train loops a separate tag attached to the name, and cut the "via Station X".

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u/DouDouandFriends 1d ago

Because some people don't know clockwise and it's just easier to know "ah yes! I want to get off at ts interchange"

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u/mrsunshyboy 1d ago

Confusing... Good luck trying to elderly commuters every time

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u/desdator 1d ago

Help…..

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u/No_Trash4838 1d ago

I wonder what will happen to Bras Basah and Esplanade station?

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u/pdirk 1d ago

Every so often, a train will exit the loop (terminate at Dhoby Ghaut shown on the 4th pic) and rejoin the loop (likely at later intervals).

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u/shiinamachi 1d ago

off peak hours trains on the spur line run between dhoby ghaut and stadium

during peak hours they run all the way to prince edward road

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u/xfall2 1d ago

Confusing for those who dont have the rough structure of ccl down or the next stop. Still have to look at the train map for that route

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u/Fatal_Taco 1d ago

Finally, our very own Clockwork Orange

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u/Left_Rough7131 9h ago

Tourist: "Excuse me, Auntie, we want to go to HarbourFront. Which side of the platform?"

Auntie (pointing aggressively at the map): "Ai ya, look here! Left side also can, right side also can. If you take the left, you reach in 5 minutes. If you take the right, you go one big round, see the whole island, grow 2 years older, and end up right back here looking at my face again. You choose!"

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u/KingYTreal 8h ago

all shits and giggles until dhoby ghaut gets less service time on the ccl

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u/Imaginary_Scholar_86 7h ago

We have gone full circle

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u/Select_External_6618 4h ago

The PSD signs are north-up/framed geographically on some platforms (e.g. Paya Lebar), which I don’t like. On ACW platform (towards MacPherson and Harbourfront) the map shows clockwise, and need to refer to station board in the middle of platform. Otherwise, pretty spot on!

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u/SL0WRID3R 50m ago

can sing the song 🎶Where are you now~

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u/Christianmonk3y 1d ago

Why the fade... Very odd design choice! No one will understand that. Keep it simple stupid!

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u/FocusEnough 1d ago

Would it not be weirder if it were to stop abruptly? Because isn't the fade meant to communicate the train will still continuously move, just that it will take a longer time to get there

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u/interestingpanzer 1d ago

The reason is that now that it is a circle, let's say you want to get to a station near the opposite end of where you are.

Rather than have you count stations, you can see what is faded and what isn't

A circle isn't see easy to quickly tell how many stations away a disparate station is than a straight line.

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u/Late_Culture_8472 1d ago

How can you question our LTA elites.

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u/Christianmonk3y 1d ago

We should question so things get better... Feedback is the only way things will improve. But are the ears listening...

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u/Wide-Garbage8960 1d ago

They did hold a public consultation exercise months back… Assuming you didn’t partake in it..?

Besides, how else you would express this?

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u/Christianmonk3y 1d ago

Yes I did partake in the consultation. Firstly I would have the station names in a clockwise direction above the doors.

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u/Ok_world68 1d ago

It’s so fucking confusing. Just buy a car and be done.