Anyone gonna talk about how creepy these girls are

[u/Milk_is_trash2703]

There is a lot of sexual misconduct in this show. Setting aside the obvious pedophile that is Saegusa, the girls themselves straight up sexually assault/harass these guys. Hongo repeatedly harasses Milo with no regard to his consent. She even straight up says I know he doesn’t want to do this but then plans to put his hand on her privates and then does try to take off his trousers whilst he’s clearly protesting. If that isn’t SA idk what is. I do this that he should’ve stopped entertaining her actions but still, just because he’s a man and the teacher does not mean he can’t be subjected to sexual misconduct.

Then there’s Niina. She is the definition of a two-faced snake, encouraging Kazusa and Izumi’s relationship before grabbing Izumi’s hand and placing it on her ass which is, again, sexual misconduct. Then she dismisses his rejection by saying “you got so hard though.” This is exactly the sort of rhetoric that people use to defend rape: “how can man get raped, if he’s hard that must mean he likes it”; “she was wet so she must’ve liked it.” I hope everyone in this subreddit knows that the human body does not work that way.

They are kids so fair enough that they’re inexperienced and immature. This was actually my second time watching this and on my first watch I never realised just how sketchy these girls were but now that I’m 22 it’s so clear. However, it seems that the show does not want to portray these actions as immoral which is just going to perpetuate the idea that women cannot SA men, which is obviously an harmful idea to hold.

[u/mekerpan]

As a 73 year-old I found this a great series. The teacher stalking is definitely presented as quite inappropriate and disconcerting. No "approval" -- except for some reason in your mind Overall, however, the girls are very often and (mostly) believable.

[u/Milk_is_trash2703 → u/mekerpan]

I’m not saying they aren’t believable. We know teenagers do many strange things before they realise the true implications of their actions. My critique is that they engage in sexual misconduct without any sort of chastisement, neither in the show or by the viewers. It is undeniable that if male characters were to conduct themselves in the same way at the very least they would have been called ‘creepy’ but I don’t see that same treatment against these female characters and that is one issue that is prevalent in society.

Everyone knows that in real life men are the main perpetrators of sexual misconduct and a threat to women but there is, at least, widespread disapproval of their actions. If a man was to touch a woman without permission people would chastise him or at the very least, if they don’t actively do anything they would know that what he did wasn’t right. However, we see women touch men without their permission on their arm, back, legs, chest, stomach and even ass without that same disapproval. This is generally because men have the physiological advantage so people don’t see it that a women can intimidate a man but sexual misconduct is still sexual misconduct and SA is still SA, the onus is not on what the victim does but what the perpetrator does.

Sorry to rant but I think you misunderstood the purpose of my post so hopefully this clears it up a bit.