r/NavyNukes ET2/CVN-72(Plankowner)/LCDR, CEC ( Ret) 4d ago

Evolution of Nuclear Power Training

This post is mainly for the folks that spent at least a 20 yr active duty career in the nuclear power program over a few years ranges:

1980-2000;

1990-2010;

2000-2020; and

2010-present

What I'm curious about is whether over the time period from 1980 to the present, the nuclear power program changed such as difficulty & entrance requirements.

For data purposes, I was an ET from 1986-1992. Back in 1986, ETs went through Basic Electronics & Electricity for around two months or so where we learned all about the subject and went through circuit board troubleshooting. ET "A" school had antenna theory, transistors & tube, and the SPS-10 radar system (not very nuclear related at all). For the newer folks, ET "A" school for nukes back then was 2200-0600 daily. That was rough. Nuke school was probably similar to current academics and prototype was attended at either Idaho, Ballston Spa, or Windsor CT.

If anyone can chime in and give me program info over the years that would be much appreciated.

In summary, I have a feeling that making it through the training pipeline is more difficult now than what it was 40 yrs ago (that is such a depressing idea!).

Thanks!

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u/New_Mammoth2254 4d ago

Powerschool is easy AF now. 70+% require no more than 15-2s to get over a 3.0 . If you fail comp you recomp. If you fail recomp you get an academic board where they feed you the answers. Basically impossible to fail academically. Before you get to that point they've probably rolled you back already so you see most of the material twice. Not nearly as hard as I've heard it used to be...

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u/Navynuke00 EM (SW) 4d ago

I'll argue that's because the older system of piling on as many hours as possible was a terrible idea and didn't track with educational theory and research even 25 years ago.

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u/arestheblue ex-ET (SS) 4d ago

At a certain point, you aren't gaining anything by spending more time studying and being forced to spend more time in the building makes it tougher to engage with the content while its being taught. That was my experience anyway. I engaged a lot better when I was on volunteer hours.

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u/ike0069 ELT(SW) 4d ago

I was in school in 1993 and was on S-20/3 my whole time with right around 3.4 GPA. The max was M-35/5 and im not sure anyone actually made it thru that hit the mando 35 hr mark. I always believed it was a punishment meant to either drive you out or motivate you to get your grade up. I never believed it actually helped.

They didn't roll you back and if you failed comp you got an oral board which was basically an auto failure. From what I understand now from reading here and two co-workers who's sons went thru recently, its difficult to fail out now. The punishment now is rolling you back and make you do it again.

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u/djy887 4d ago

I spent all but the last 2 weeks of NNPS on M-35/5. I was a consistent 3.2 student. Two weeks before comp, I was shifted to V-35. Over a 3 day weekend I ended up with only 20.1 hours...it was spring break time in Daytona. EMCS read me the riot act and all sorts of threats...and I finished the last two weeks on O-35/5. Still finished the comp with a 3.2 yet again. The 'O' meant they told you when you were going to do the hours and you had to be in uniform and started each session with a uniform inspection. That was 1992 in Orlando. The forced hours did nothing for comprehension...I just sat there and doodled for hours after my homework was done.

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u/Smooth-Bad-5425 ET2/CVN-72(Plankowner)/LCDR, CEC ( Ret) 4d ago

I was on S-35 pretty much for 2/3 of the school duration. Had a family member visit Orlando and that threw me off. For several weeks I spent roughly 100 hrs (including the 40 hrs instruction time) in the school. Was perpetually sick from the stress. It got better when I started going to the bars on Friday night and the beach on Saturday. It was a case of the hours volume being negatively correlated to my grades.

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u/Navynuke00 EM (SW) 4d ago

Bingo

And the added stress of trying to make crazy hours isn't doing great things for anybody's mental health.

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u/RoyalCrownLee EM (SS/SWO) 4d ago

My favorite stress was waking up at 0445 to get to the rickiver at 0500 so take my nap until 0800 on Saturdays and Sundays.