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Question❓ Fandom you feel is like this?

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Nobody gets to make fun of my ms paint drawings shhh

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u/mearbearcate IASIP, Squid Game, R&M, Mike Flanagan series’, Smiling Friends 6d ago

Ken in both the barbie movie and barbie life in a dreamhouse

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u/mearbearcate IASIP, Squid Game, R&M, Mike Flanagan series’, Smiling Friends 6d ago

I also need me a ken who can feel his me senses tingling when im in trouble tbh
https://giphy.com/gifs/NFKU9Elp3D4k

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u/I_love_lolbit369 fpe/hh/hb/md/fnaf/mlp/ppt 6d ago

Life in the dreeeeeeamhouse

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u/aurora_the_piplup 5d ago

Yes omg I need myself a bf who has the Spidey senses when I need him 🤣

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u/Blair_Cypher_94 4d ago

Ayyy I used to watch this when I'm like 8

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u/Greensonickid 6d ago

It's cause they accidentally made him the Best Part

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u/Begone-My-Thong 6d ago

Which ngl is an achievement in itself considering how good the movie is altogether. When you have an entire pile of jewels, sometimes you miss the diamond

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u/leo_sousav 6d ago

Loved the movie, everything was great and it’s unfortunate some people cared more about making a meme out of it rather than the message. I just didn’t really appreciate the typical Disney Chanel “save the Barbie’s with a wacky plan” bit, felt a bit disconnected from the rest of the writing

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u/Apart-Performer-331 6d ago

I really hated that child, the way she spoke was so forced.

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u/registername1 5d ago

Tell me what the message was. I like Barbie movie because it’s a Rorschach test. What did you see?

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u/hhhhhhhhhhhjf 6d ago

The message wasn't good though. They immediately go back to disriminating against the Ken's and don't learn a single thing.

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u/RussianBot101101 5d ago

That's... the point? The movie tackles representation of women in IRL fields through the Kens. The Kens are given a little bit of power and are told that's enough for now. It's supposed to be an inverse of IRL trends. Even now so many right-wing mouthpieces are telling women to go back to staying in the house and stay out of the office, whether business or government.

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u/hhhhhhhhhhhjf 5d ago

Yeah, we get it. Still fucking shitty when they could've just actually solved the problem and wrote in a message about how we need to treat everyone equally. But no, after an entire movie of buildup and talk about women's struggles in the real world they go right back to subjugating the Kens.

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u/RussianBot101101 5d ago

That doesn't do anything at all. The entire point of the ending is to make people go "hey wait, that's not fair to the Kens" (ofc it's a comedy and no one's supposed to actually be getting their panties in a twist) and then be forced to realize that's happening to women irl. If you just say "everyone be equal," the way the audience can engage with the movie completely changes and the desired outcome is lost.

The idea is to get people who empathize with the Kens to come to conclusions that they should with women. "Oh man, they should totally let the Kens have more representation and give them more opportunities to join productive society" would send a more logical individual to then apply that to the problems of actual people (gerrymandering, educating themselves on what DEI initiatives actually are, the legal battles against women, etc). It's supposed to promote self awareness.

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u/hhhhhhhhhhhjf 5d ago

They spent the entire movie discussing all the ways that women are oppressed in reality and then did nothing about it. Wonderful message.

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u/RussianBot101101 5d ago

I don't believe you understand the movie on a fundamental level, nor do I believe you understand movies as a political medium. The movie isn't about providing solutions to everything, it's about identifying problems and promoting self awareness so that individuals may reach solutions individually. It's to get people to think, and it's supposed to stick with people. If it wrapped up neatly and nicely, it would be instinctual to dismiss it or forget it the moment one walked out of the theater. The Barbie movie stayed in public discussion longer and better than Oppenheimer because the latter had nothing to say and wrapped itself up nicely and neatly in the end. If you want to promote discussion, you cannot terminate it before others have the opportunity to speak. Barbie offered challenges, flipped sex discrimination paradigms, and provided opportunities to viewers to reflect on its inconclusiveness.

I ended deleting a massive portion of this comment as I could write an entire essay (and may do just that in the future), but I don't think it would have gone anywhere or have done anything for you. I recommend exercising not only asking why something is the way that it is, but exploring the viewpoints of people you don't initially agree with using a mind willing to see things from their perspective.

As a too long; didn't post (lol), if I had to give a very short answer as to why Barbie doesn't offer up a solution, it's because of this:

Any equality-utopic solution depicted in Barbie would wholly fail the movie's message as it would depict a fictional world where a call for equality isn't callously minimized or dismissed in the face of evidence by the privileged to a reality of privileged who do minimize and dismiss that call in the face of evidence everyday.

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u/Memedotma 3d ago

were you expecting a policy brief?

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u/Dennis_enzo 5d ago

So the message is that women would be just as bad as men if they were in power?

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u/Lucy_Gucey 5h ago

I mean maybe? There shouldn’t be a power imbalance to begin with.

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u/YourAverageGenius 2d ago

Considering how much of a mixed feminist metaphor the movie is, it's so surprising that they made such a stereotypical male character, intentionally and blatant had him written to start to believe in a bunch of bullshit that caused him to become a stereotypical macho asshole and essentially invent the patriarchy in Barbieland, and yet made his arc so good and believable that he's arguably the most liked character in that movie.

Ken is simultaneously supposed to be an oppressed gender minority (IE essentially Barbieland treats men like IRL women for the majority of the 20th century), yet also a symbol of stereotypical Alpha / Incel Macho culture that infects men and is imposed on women, and somehow they managed to do both very well with a very understandable character who so blatantly and clearly does not get nor deserve the love of the main character yet still is so likable.

i guess the true moral of the movie is that ryan gosling is fucking awesome and literally me.

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u/ineedtoknow707 6d ago

Literally the best part of the entire movie, forget Barbie.. just make a sequel that’s just Ken

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u/mearbearcate IASIP, Squid Game, R&M, Mike Flanagan series’, Smiling Friends 6d ago

Yes pls. They also need to make more barbie life in a dreamhouse i beg that show is so good. One season makes me sad & the fact that most of them are replays of other episodes sometimes :( naur

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u/ineedtoknow707 6d ago

I really wish they went in on more of Barbie and Ken’s everyday lives in the movie. It felt like it was too focused on saying a message than about the characters as individuals

Haven’t watched the dream house tho? Only clips of Ken— because he’s literally the cutest lol

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u/mearbearcate IASIP, Squid Game, R&M, Mike Flanagan series’, Smiling Friends 6d ago

Omg i agree. I recommend life in a dreamhouse its amazinggg, raquelle>>> its on netflix

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u/depressedpotato777 5d ago

Raquelle is so fantastic.

I sensed tension and came as fast as I could!

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u/Some_Guy223 6d ago

They call it Project Hail Mary.

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u/whatleadmehere 6d ago

Make an actual TV series called "I'm Kenough" and have it be about the Ken who made it to the real world, after being Kenough and all that, start to realize that Barbie land is dying, and he, along with Allen and another barbie, have to work together to figure out what's wrong. Turns out, it's the Bronies of barbie, who go by the Barbarella Guard, lead by Lili, who hates that she had been forgotten.

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u/pawnman99 6d ago

Hes Kenough

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u/Lenny_Fais Gargoyles, LBT, Metroid, and many many more. 6d ago

Is it ever kenough?

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u/Electrohydra1 5d ago

And make Barbie the best part of that movie.

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u/El_Bito2 4d ago

You know I kind of lost interest when I realised masculinity wasn't as much about horses.

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u/EnergyHumble3613 3d ago

But will it be… Kenough?

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u/Lucy_Gucey 5h ago

Call it “i’m just Ken”

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u/cpslcking 6d ago

Ryan Gosling stole the movie. TBF it's Ryan Gosling, man was born oozing charisma.

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u/KonoAnonDa 6d ago

Preach. Bro's genuinely one of the best actors of our current day. He kills nearly every role he's cast in.

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u/PitifulElk1890 6d ago

Really weird that there were so many complaints about there even being such a girly movie out... When 75% of the plot is just about male insecurities

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u/Different_Ad4306 6d ago

To be fair the A plot is about barbie and the 2 humans. If anything its like 50/50

Also those kinda guys see male insecurities as girly... because they're insecure about it

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u/CautiousCube 3d ago

The "for girls" movie is mostly just bitter women complaining about men? Crazy that people wouldn't enjoy that. Maybe if the movie was "for men," and a majority of the "writing" just boiled down to bitter men complaining about female stereotypes, you'd see what a stupid and lazy concept that is. All the Barbie movie proves is that women don't even want a movie that focuses on themselves when they can bitch about men instead.

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u/matande31 6d ago

That's just part of the Gosling charm.

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u/Digit00l 6d ago

Life in the dream house did have a solid cast overall, the oldest sister and the rival girl were also great

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u/PuzzleheadedMess1659 6d ago

To be fair, Ryan Gosling in Barbie is easily one of the best comedic performances of the decade.

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u/bateen618 6d ago

The fact that in a movie with so many great songs, most by female artists, the song from the movie that won an Oscar is this, is just so funny

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u/justdudebeing 6d ago

I think you mean the Mojo Dojo Casa House.

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u/mearbearcate IASIP, Squid Game, R&M, Mike Flanagan series’, Smiling Friends 5d ago

Nah i mean the dreamhouse

Could never exclude dreamhouse Ken

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u/Leading_Charge8007 5d ago

Nah but it's Ryan Gosling

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u/Voeno 2d ago

Ken is the best character

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u/Ok-Dingo-3733 2d ago

i feel like raquel steals the show in life in the dreamhouse tbh

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u/mearbearcate IASIP, Squid Game, R&M, Mike Flanagan series’, Smiling Friends 1d ago

She does, she is an absolute queen but ken is def 2nd best

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u/Initial_Committee197 2d ago

There he is the goat,litteraly me, mister Gosling

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u/ReKaiserKing 2h ago

"Doesn't seem to matter what I do, I'm always number two...."