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Question❓ Fandom you feel is like this?

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Nobody gets to make fun of my ms paint drawings shhh

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u/CrystalDragonCynzi 6d ago

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned RWBY yet

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u/nowaunderatedwaifngl 6d ago

I've never watched an episode of RWBY but literally every piece of engagement/art/gifs/etc., I've seen of it as an outsider has been of one of the female characters. To the point where I was pretty much under the impression it was an all-female cast.

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u/NoGround 6d ago

Jaune is pretty well-known inside the fandom for being a self-insert and taking up a ton of attention for whenever he's in a scene. He and Ruby are the two characters with some of the deepest developments.

Also, many of the big favorite characters are male. Crow, Roman, Ironwood, Oz. The female cast outside of the main group are definitely powerful but they never seemed to have the same audience pull except for maybe Crow's sister, Neo, and Salem.

I'm shocked I remembered any of these names, tbh. I fell off that show in Season 5 when it was clear that they wouldn't reach the same heights as Season 3 ever again.

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u/TheBrownestStain 6d ago

Jaune is not a self insert. He’s one of the main characters, but not a self insert.

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u/Rebound101 6d ago

Creators Pet would be a better description.

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u/TheBrownestStain 6d ago

Eh, I’m not even sure I’d call him that. I just see him as the secondary protagonist to Ruby being the primary, with their teams being supporting protagonists. I’m not sure if they’ve ever talked about it but I just assume him being voiced by one of the writers is more just because basically everyone early on was voiced by people they already had in the office.

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u/AnArcticJackalope 4d ago

Jaune in early seasons could be viewed as an “audience insert” to slowly introduce the viewers into the rules and worldbuilding of the show, but the entirety of the promotional material focused on Team RWBY as the protagonists and very clearly showed Team JNPR as secondary protagonists. And yet nearly 1/3 of Volume 1 puts Jaune as the lead and many fans were a little upset by that. The fact that he was voiced by one of the writers (neither of which had any experience writing), and was written very similar to how other shows would write main male protagonist, gives off the impression that he was supposed to be a main character when he very much was not. Hence why he’s being brought up in this trope.

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u/Full_Contribution724 5d ago

The secondary protagonist should be Weiss, Blake and Yang

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u/Koreaia 5d ago

Dudes will call Jaune a self insert while ignoring Blake and Yang.

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u/BlackMaskKiira 6d ago

It's honestly funny how much attention Jaune gets, considering how anti-male the show can get at times *cough* Ironwood *cough*.

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u/Shock-Robin 6d ago

Eh, I feel it gets better after seasons 4 and 5

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u/Aryzal 6d ago

Well, depends.

If you are there for the fight choreography and animation, you know, the things that made RWBY popular in the first place, no it doesn't. Season 4 is one of the worst seasons for fights, and it doesn't pick up until season 7 and 8, in which case it is still animated worse than seasons 1-3 because legendary animator and showrunner Monty Oum has died in the production of season 3, and most of the actually good animators were let off, namely Shane Newell and Dillion Goo. Even back when season 3 was airing, people were already saying the fight quality dropped, because Monty wasn't there for half of it.

If you are there for the story, TECHNICALLY yes. But it is like getting a C instead of a C- on a test. You still barely passed, congrats on slightly not failing better. Season 4 was one of the worst boring slogfests, IIRC Season 5 was memed because the characters mostly sat in a room and discussed things for most of the show, season 6 was kind of a transition season with a ton of lore dump that people seem to treat as good storywriting for some unknowable reason, 7 was actually pretty good, and season 8 had no logic and butchered a fan favorite character who has done nothing but be helpful to the main cast, because the writers made a trolley problem but wanted the protagonists to win no matter what, so the logical step to make the guy who has selflessly sacrificed everything to save his people and be kind to random strangers who he had no obligations to (who are also the main characters)... shoot someone for political power (he already had the political clout needed) and take over as dictator. Because miliarism bad (even though there is a horde of monsters trying to kill everything in your city).

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u/NoGround 6d ago

Probably, they lost me though.

Did it ever finish before RT shut down?

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u/CrystalDragonCynzi 6d ago

It got to Volume 9 and then some epilogue shorts. Supposedly Volume 10 is in pre-production, but I'm not holding my breath.

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u/The_Final_Gunslinger 6d ago

That's heartening. I lost track/interest during season 4. It dropped hard after Monty. I'll have to pick it back up some time.

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u/Shock-Robin 6d ago

Yeah, 4 and 5 are ROUGH, ngl. But 6 is one of my personal favorites, and everything after that varies from "okay" to "great", imo

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u/RynnHamHam 6d ago

Yeah Robin should’ve been given a little more badassery. Because I want to like her but she feels very… boring. Like cool power, cool motivations, I like her as a person. But for the life of me I can’t remember if she actually does anything beyond that one instance of her using her power as a lie detector.

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u/LuckyLilypad 3d ago

I mean, referring to Raven only as “Crow’s sister” is wild

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u/stnick6 6d ago

It’s been a while since I watched it but I remember jaune and Oscar taking a lot of focus in the later seasons

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u/TheOneAndOnlyABSR4 6d ago

Happy cake day

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u/Spare_Cow5160 6d ago

It could be with time..

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u/AgitoKanohCheekz 6d ago

My first introduction to the series was the….Schneenis…..

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u/Accomplished-Pace-85 6d ago

Yeah I was scrolling for this answer

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u/Admirable_Sail_5765 6d ago

Eh, i dont really feel this is the case. Maybe in certain fanfiction, but Jaune hasnt really been the focus of RWBY over the main four for a while.

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u/Complete_Cable2686 6d ago

Volume 8 had two dudes be the first to get a major fight against Salem. Didn't see volume 9, but I heard it focuses on Jaune after Ruby's... Moment.

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u/Willing_Radish7389 6d ago

I feel like volume 9 focuses most on ruby jaune isn't even there for like half of it

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u/Difficult_Garbage_91 6d ago

Eh, idk. Volume 9 had a lot going on for Jaune too. He didn’t need to be in the Ever After whatsoever, especially since all of his physical developments are just taken away at the end.

Additionally, having him blame Ruby for literally everything that went wrong only really serves to make himself and the rest of Team RWBY seem like assholes who ignore Ruby’s clearly declining mental state.

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u/Flawless_Degenerate 3d ago

Volume 9 was boring as fuck until Neo and Jaune showed up in episode 5.

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u/EMlYASHlROU 6d ago

I dunno, I feel that Jaune’s focus in fanfiction has skewed people’s perception of how much focus he gets in the actual show

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u/Walkingdrops 6d ago

I agree. Jaune is definitely over-represented in fanfiction, but he's an easy character to write because he's a massive underdog who knows nothing about the world, so he's a great audience surrogate. He's also one of two characters who actually has an interesting arc in the early seasons (the other being Blake).

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u/OneBar9633 2d ago

And just like Blake he has 0 character development since

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u/C-130Hercule 6d ago

>”yeah, all four main characters of our new anime are BADASS WOMEN with SUPER COOL ANIME WEAPONS”

>immediately sideline said women for a blond haired blue eyed white guy with a sword and shield whose arc is that he has to “prove himself”

pure kino

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u/Difficult_Garbage_91 6d ago

Who also just so happens to be voiced by one of the shows main developers, too. Funny that.

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u/Dracorex13 6d ago

Nah because I like Jaune.

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u/rosealinaruby 5d ago

Jaune was my first thought. Like jaune is ok, but I'm pretty sure in the latest volume he has more lines than blake and yang combined. He also was the one to kill Penny, despite barely interacting with her? I love this show but also man, they need to stop inserting him into everything.

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u/the_Real_Romak 4d ago

if anyone is still hung up on Jaune having his 5 minutes in volume 1 ten years ago, that's on them.

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u/MustJarkus 6d ago

What is RWBY

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u/CrystalDragonCynzi 6d ago

RWBY is a Western indie animation series with heavy anime influences. It has a predominately female cast, but in the first few seasons especially the attention is very heavily focused on the blond haired blue eyed audience insert who is also male. I love RWBY, but they didn't do a very good job with balancing out character development in my opinion.

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u/Black_Hammertime 6d ago

A YouTube webseries/anime created by Rooster Teeth and Monty Oum. The early premise revolves around 4 girls and their classmates who wield weapons that transform between melee and gun modes and fight monsters called "Grim".

Kinda like Soul Eater in the sense that a lot of the characters are based off of fairy tales, religious figures or historical figures.

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u/HeroFizzer 6d ago

And some are named after colors!

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u/Dracorex13 6d ago

All of them ostensibly are named after colors, but it almost immediately devolved into "thing with a distinctive color".

Hell we didn't even get through all four of eponymous characters before that happened.

Ruby = name of a color, Weiss = name of a color, Blake = name of a color, Yang = thing with a distinctive color

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u/DarkDemonDan 6d ago

Worse teen titans

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u/Paladinlvl99 6d ago

Male characters in RWBY are not taking the spotlight at all

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u/Own_Palpitation_4287 4d ago

bc it's not omg

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u/Lonewolf82084 3d ago

Frankly, to me, no male character in RWBY comes to mind regarding this. Compared to most of the women in the series, not just the members of Team RWBY, the male characters are pretty lukewarm by comparison.

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u/SphereNinja 2d ago

Well... it doesn't help that as more Volumes are released, the more of Team RWBY become "one-note" characters or making themselves worse

  • Weiss: Threatening her CIVILIAN brother
  • Blake: Literally is a princess, and had her whole "Faunus Eacism plotline" dropped
  • Yang: Prioritizing her partner over her sister

Also, that fact that Jaune is a "underdog" character, it immediately make him more interesting and easier to root for him.

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u/Headless_mann 6d ago

Been on the hunt for this comment.

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u/Aggressive-Pay9533 6d ago

Right? Jaune was literally my first thought lol 😂

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u/Complete_Cable2686 6d ago

Was just about to say this, especially since it's about four girls and is named after them.

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u/Aun_El_Zen 6d ago

I think he worked as an audience surrogate for the first two seasons. His only real purpose was to have the world explained to him. I genuinely think he should've been the one killed off at the end of season 3.