r/Louisiana • u/LarxII • 22h ago
LA - Politics Funny how we can "disagree" on politics so much, then absolutely blowout these Amendments
Almost like we ACTUALLY agree on a lot of things, though the media and political ads would have you believe otherwise.
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u/NickForBR 22h ago
Louisiana is a Republican state that always eventually realizes it doesn't like Republican policies, and then the cycle repeats
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u/marbledog 18h ago
You probably know this, but I always like to remind people: there are more registered Democrats than registered Republicans in Louisiana. Louisiana is run by Republicans, but it's not made of Republicans.
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u/jsimo36 Calcasieu Parish 17h ago
People act like I’m crazy when I bring up that fact.
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u/marbledog 17h ago
Oh, yeah. I've sent people the link to the official count on Secretary of State's website numerous times. They won't believe you otherwise.
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u/Skydvdan 16h ago
I feel like there are more because they are left over from the Clinton Era when Louisiana went blue.
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u/marbledog 16h ago
Louisiana routinely voted blue until the Civil Rights Act. I'm pretty sure we voted for Carter in his first term, too. Reagan really cemented the southern strategy.
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u/flyingcarpetmechanic 22h ago
Who is "Louisiana"?
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u/LoveAndDoubt 21h ago
I am America bro we already did this
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u/flyingcarpetmechanic 21h ago
I understand. My contention is that politicians look at "us" as a whole. I don't think or feel blue, red, dem, or rep. I'm me and my concerns are for a better society. I know they do what they were taught in school, but I want someone to finally be what we created politicians for. For the people. Have a badass Sunday bro.
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u/Frank_Melena 22h ago
It shows you our legislators who rubber stamped this are more afraid of Landry and his clique than they are of their own voters. What we really need is competitive local elections where these people are getting hammered on why they approved policies their constituents abhor.
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u/ledeblanc 21h ago
Our legislators need to show up and explain the amendments, in detail, face to face with their constituents.
In the end, all of the amendments should be statutes.
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u/Mission-Lack-92 20h ago
I’m sad the library tax renewal did not pass. But I hear they plan to get it on the next ballot, where it’ll have a better chance.
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u/thatgibbyguy 22h ago
Yeah something happens when an R and D get next to someone's name or policy.
It's just Pepsi vs Coke, or Gatorade vs Powerade when we all know we really want 10k.
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u/OrphanedInStoryville 20h ago edited 13h ago
Just to be clear. All the amendments were republican ideas supported by the republicans in office.
So this isn’t really a “BoTh SiDeS aRe JuSt As BaD” “Turdburger vs Shitsandwitch” situation, as much as it is: even though the right wing has more money and better media outreach, when voters see the actual policies they side with the left
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u/AlabasterPelican Calcasieu Parish 22h ago
We disagree on some very fundamental things, hon.
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u/LarxII 21h ago
Like?
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u/AlabasterPelican Calcasieu Parish 21h ago
Who actually deserves to be treated as fully fledged humans, just for one.
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u/LarxII 21h ago
Funny enough, quite a few people I've pushed on this in conversation will attempt to deflect and say something along the lines of "I don't HATE (X group) I just don't think (thing that makes X group happy/endowed with the same rights as them) is immoral cause (insert religious reasoning here)." Then I've pushed back with the "Golden Rule" argument, and sadly only a few, but SOME, have conceded (over a long and consistent time period of me doing this) that (X politican) doesn't really have there best interests at heart and doesn't represent (X religion).
Sadly, a lot of them "Just don't want to talk about politics" instead of talking about, and thinking about how we've gotten to the place we are now.
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u/dayburner 21h ago
Louisiana, and national, Republicans have a large block that are voting against organized in general. They don't care about GOP policy they are voting for the party that will do the most to dismantle the government. They're never going to vote for a party that actually wants functional government. When they see Amendments they vote no just to prevent government from working.
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u/AlabasterPelican Calcasieu Parish 21h ago
Not exactly, most of those amendments would have been voted for in that case.
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u/dayburner 21h ago
They vote no on those by default to make the governments job harder in general. It's a "we don't trust you so no".
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u/AlabasterPelican Calcasieu Parish 20h ago
Not exactly. They have advocacy groups that will tell them how to vote but its not straight no. Thats more of a straight libertarian thing than republican. I believe Jeffie's government & the legislature have lost the confidence of the people, so the "i don't trust you so no" is a part of it, but not exactly with the motivation you're ascribing.
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u/dayburner 16h ago
Look back at most amendments and the default position is no. I'm not referring to theses in particular but the theory on amendments in general.
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u/AlabasterPelican Calcasieu Parish 15h ago edited 14h ago
Not true.
May 16, 2026 all amendments on the ballot failed.
March 29, 2025 all amendments on the ballot failed failed.
December 07, 2024 all passed with a decent margin.
November 04, 2024 the only amendment on the ballot passed.
November 18, 2023 three out of four amendments on the ballot passed.
October 14, 2023 all amendments passed.
December 10, 2022 all amendments on the ballot passed.
November 08, 2022 three out of eight amendments on the ballot passed.
November 13, 2021 one of four amendments on the ballot passed.
December 05, 2020 the only amendment on the ballot failed.
November 03, 2020 five of seven amendments on the ballot passed.
I've gone back six years, shall I keep going?
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u/dayburner 15h ago edited 15h ago
Without a party margin on those you're not making a case for your argument.
Edit: Most of those were during John Bell's tome in office as well. So they likelyore centrist and would have a larger Dem approval.
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u/AlabasterPelican Calcasieu Parish 14h ago edited 14h ago
Best i can do is voter turnout
March 29, 2025 all amendments on the ballot failed failed.
- dem 311,175 gop 214,856 other 114,595
December 07, 2024 all passed with a decent margin.
- dem 148,160 gop 138,113 other 59,387
November 04, 2024 the only amendment on the ballot passed.
- dem 729,714 gop 825,647 other 465,803
November 18, 2023 three out of four amendments on the ballot passed.
- dem 266,488 gop 308,233 other 112,555
October 14, 2023 all amendments passed.
- dem 417,748 gop 470,723 other 190,218
December 10, 2022 all amendments on the ballot passed.
- dem 185,726 gop 184,807 other 68,045
November 08, 2023 three out of eight amendments on the ballot passed.
- dem 548,677 gop 590,828 other 270,961
November 13, 2021 one of four amendments on the ballot passed.
- dem 196,567 gop 164,971 other 64,260
December 05, 2020 the only amendment on the ballot failed.
- dem 257,895 gop 193,535 other 76,391
November 03, 2020 five of seven amendments on the ballot passed.
- dem 874,131 gop 817,446 other 477,836
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u/Grand-Celery4000 21h ago
Assume level playing field i.e. voters more better informed and remove the bad actors involved...
I am curious how many people voted against these amendments because they disagreed with the actual ideas, versus voting against them because they distrusted the process or the people promoting them? If the ideas themselves are unpopular, where did they come from, and who believes they would improve government?
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u/Mrfrosty504 21h ago
Oh ill admit, anything these clowns put forward ill go against
Give everyone 10k? Nope. There's a catch somewhere.
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u/EmbarrassedBall7406 21h ago
That's because Baton Rouge is already surrounded by White Apartheid Municipalities and there not enough people buying into their "dream" anymore now that nobody has been able to afford beef in the last 4 months.
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u/After-Language9518 21h ago
So because a certain group of people want to move out into better communities where crime is actually enforced and the community is actually taken care of it’s considered institutional segregation?
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u/LarxII 21h ago
Let's go ahead and look at the racial make up of those areas they're essentially redlining.......
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u/Alternative-Duck-573 20h ago
Apartheid is a strong word though. I get what they mean, but goodness. I call it white flight and it's been going on as long as I remember (I'm old).
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u/EmbarrassedBall7406 15h ago
96% of the residents are White.
You are correct that not Apartheid.
Technically that's a White Ethnostate
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u/EmbarrassedBall7406 20h ago
Take a look at their first map.
Then the second.
And yes, if 96% of the houses in a "city" are owned by White people who want to duplicate every possible service rather than compete with the needs of the community as a whole . That's straight up RACIST bullshit.
If you live there you might want to wake up to how you are perceived by your neighbors.
Go join Denham Springs.. they won't be mean to you and you will fit right in.
Yep.. Apartheid and Racists.
Take it from an expert.
Oh wait, I forgot.. "Everybody is an "expert" and all "opinions" are equally valuable."
How about you go make another video talking about the mean "libs".
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u/bare172 St. Tammany Parish 21h ago
I say constantly that we all have way more in common with each other than we don't. Obviously there are some insane outliers that I can't even have a conversation with (extremists), but there are many people I disagree with on certain things but there is usually common ground when we talk it out. I believe the echo chambers of social media and 24 hour cable news outlets that are more concerned about ratings and engagement drive many people to believe things are much worse than they are.
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u/I_PM_Duck_Pics 19m ago
Appreciate ballot initiatives while they are there. Ours in Mississippi were stolen from us. I’m proud of Louisiana.
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u/Alternative-Duck-573 20h ago
Isn't voting down more government control and taxes essentially Republican by theoretical doctrine?
Democrats are going to vote it down because Republicans want it, but what they're proposing is not republican policies.
Roughly 1/3 of us don't or won't pick a political party officially and that's a hell of a gap there too for both parties to examine.
Regardless of political association you're absolutely correct that there's more of us than there is of them and we shouldn't forget that ever.
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u/username_generated 20h ago
There are also cranks that just blindly vote against amendments because it’s the state legislature punting on potentially unpopular policies instead of actually doing their jobs, creating an impenetrable wall of constitutionally mandated actions that prevent the government from actually budgeting properly.
It’s me. I’m one of those cranks.
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u/Practical_Maximum_73 21h ago
Because no matter what letter you're with we're all tired of being screwed. These fools just think throwing more money at shit is gonna make it better. Whether you agree with doge or Nick Shirley or not, you can't deny the fact that government waste alot of you money on dumb shit. They need to do better with what they already rob from us, not beg for more with ammendment. We're all struggling with finances one way or another, shit is tight, the last thing I want to vote for is more money coming out of my pocket.
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u/nolapalooza 16h ago
What's been keeping our state dead fucking last and soon the rest of America isn't government waste of taxpayers money. Landry is running most of the state under budget. What hurts us and keeps us poor isn't the payroll for civil service workers and it sure as hell isn't the paltry amount spent on SNAP or Medicaid. It's the insane giveaways to multi billion dollar companies and industries that should be paying us instead of us funding them. It is time to start taxing industry and millionaires and billionaires.
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u/Practical_Maximum_73 15h ago
I don't totally agree with everything you said but I do agree with you 110% on giant multimillion dollar companies getting tax breaks. I've been in the oil and gas industry for almost 30 years. The amout of damage these companies have caused and all the junk and devastation they've left behind is pitiful. What really pisses me off is everytime someone talks about making oil and gas pay more, politicians start screaming about loosing jobs. What the fuck they gonna do? Take the Mississippi river and intracoastal with them? No. They gonna shut down their plant and eventually someone else will buy it. Smh.. rant over. Just anyone go look on google maps and follow the river from Baton Rouge to New Orleans. The amount of business and money flowing through our state is fucking astonishing. There is no reason Louisiana isn't first in every fucking thing.
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u/nolapalooza 15h ago
I worked mwd for Schlumberger for 5 years and that was long enough to confirm that tax breaks, subsidies, and land give aways never bring a return to the state in the form of jobs. They don't even bother with the lie anymore that these gifts to the richest companies on the planet will bring in well paying jobs. It's all trickle down bullshit. What we do get left with is a mess and destruction to our environment.
I appreciate your thoughts about this considering your background. Glad your out after so long.
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u/Practical_Maximum_73 15h ago
Unfortunately still in it. A good video on YouTube about Louisiana is literally called "Why is Louisiana so broke" I've been sharing is for years. Hits alot of good points. Peace out.
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u/Borg_Tech_Support 22h ago
If you start putting (R) and (D) around these amendments the outcome would be different. Some people will 100% agree with something until you tell them the opposing party created it and vice versa. See the history of the Affordable Care Act.