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Why is Daeron not with his dragon? This is actually getting dumber the more they show of it *STICH INCOMING*
At this point just include Daeron by word of mouth honestly idgaf. This is like the 7th time we could have gotten more of a glimpse. Could they not have thought of a SINGLE way to tease him at all? in any of the teasers or trailers? No shots of someone flying Tessarion, no shots of Ormund knighting a certain someone, no shots of a certain someone messing around with a lute?
At first I thought he was in the saddle cause I saw a white dot so I assumed it was his head but I think it's just glare from the sun.
But yeah. I don't understand. He's a Dragonrider- in the field or when armies are on the move, he should be on his dragon. The more scenes they show of Ormund in the field with no Daeron, it kills the hype- it doesn't build it. The literal opposite of a "teaser"
We've already heard Corlys' corny one-liners, we've already heard Alicent say something while on the verge of tears, we've already heard Rhaenyra bitching about being/not being the queen. Meanwhile they haven't teased shit about the only real "surprise" character that can be used effectively to that effect.
I want to see shots of Daeron the F*cking Daring on his blue fire-breathing dragon kicking ass in the field, shots of Aemond and Alys making love under the weirwood tree, shots of Vermithor the second biggest dragon decimating Tumbleton, stuff like that. The marketing team fumbled this year releasing teaser after teaser that all felt exactly the same. They could have dropped a bomb in the final trailer but they couldn't be bothered?
This whole impostor plot is really dumb. It just makes things more confusing, especially since the general audience doesn’t even know Alicent has a fourth child
Book!Daeron did use Tessarion to scout ahead for Ormund and the army. George himself said dragons were awkward in the ground and pointed as formidable the fact a dragon could fight back and surviving on the land against troopes
Sunfyre himself proved more formidable than expected. Dragons are awkward creatures on the ground. Sunfyre writhed and coiled like a serpent, his tail lashing, sending blasts of golden flame at his attackers as he struggled to fly. Thrice he rose, and thrice fell back to earth. Mooton’s men swarmed him with swords and spears and axes, dealing him many grievous wounds… yet each blow only seemed to enrage him further. The number of the dead reached threescore before the survivors fled
Sunfyre was an exceptional case of resilience and strength.
The rest of dragons: Caraxes was almost killed by some pirates in the land before Daemon run away and flew away. Survivors dragons from Valyria were killed by Essos's
Syrax was killed on the ground, Tyraxes was killed on the land. Vermax was killed by flying too low
You dont let your dragon in the ground in front of armies.
Mooton’s troops swarmed him with swords and spears and axes, dealing him many grievous wounds… yet each blow only seemed to enrage him further.The number of the dead reached threescore before the survivors fled
60 hard battlened and trained knights from Lord Monton that killed Greens troops with such ease
The would be dragonslayers easily drove off the cordon of guards who had been left to feed,guard and protect the dragon.
Bigger and older dragons were killed by troops, the Rhoynar killed 2 in one and Essos killed Valyrians and their dragons during the slave revolts during the doom of Valyrian.
Not mentioning Syrax dying by peasants with some forks
It's too often forgotten that Sunfyre (next to RR, Grey Ghost, Moondancer, still managing to live two months after executing Rhaenyra so that Aegon had some hope that he might even recover) managed to defend himself and destroy most of an actual entire trained army only a short time after RR. He is absolutely fierce and his resilience and how much he goes through is very unique for a dragon.
Ngl, aside from everything. We all should agree that Caraxes was the most badass dragon. Daemon did kill Aemond, but Caraxes actually brought Vhagar down with itself and actually survived (died of wounds later tho). No Dragon in the dance could pull that off, maybe a surprise attack or something could kill Aemond, but bringing down a dragon twice it's size was something only Caraxes could pull off.
I disagree,sorry. Sunfyre is the most badass dragon for me
•He is definitiok of bond,beauty,loyalty and feats.
•He had the highest KD record on westerosi history along Vhagar despite of being one of the youngest dragons. Since a narrative point, Sunfyre gave a lot of movement at the plot and story
That golden little bastard is so young and manages to turn the tide between Vhagar and Meleys, a dragon probably 3 times his age and size, and nearly got a wing torn off in the process. Slaughters dozens of men sent to kill it, manages to fly across across the country and onto dragonstone. Kills Grey Ghost, a healthy dragon just about his size, getting wounded more in the process. Then, even barely able to move or fly, manages to kill Moondancer as well, destroying the last dragon of Team Black. He hold into life until he is able to kill the claimant Rhaenyra, assuring Aegon is crowned King and retakes King's Landing.
But hey,everyone had their own opinions and favourites. Meanwhile we are civil and respectful about our opinions, that's good
That's another thing I don't get. Did Daeron need to run off to use the bathroom so they stopped, all formed up in perfect formation, and called dragonkeepers over to keep an eye on Tessarion while they waited?
The showrunners know zero about the dragonlore so far.
It is just like Sheepstealer appearing in the Vale.
George throw shade and posted on his blog a while back, arguing that dragons are territorial and not nomadic; and that they stay close to established lairs such as Dragonstone or the Dragonpit, and that they won't travel far without riders.
Its funny because casual viewers still have no idea who Daeron is. Only us book and lore nerds know. He's just gonna show up and casuals aren't going to remember his one passing mention last season and its going to seem like the writers are just pulling Targaryens out of nowhere for dramatic effect.
I don't know how much you know (or want to know) about leaks and spoilers, but Daeron can't be with Tessarion in this specific scene since there's a little scheme going on; that's also why they won't show Daeron in the trailers at all. Is it annoying? Yes. But they're trying to keep the plot twist alive for the people who haven't seen the leaks.
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Daeron is probably there, since Fake!Daeron is actually standing close to Tessarion on the left. You can see him wearing green. This is likely the scene where Fake!Daeron gets handed over to Daemon.
They could have shown his back with a cloak on his head next to his dragon or him next to Ormund. Just something but noooo, freaking nothing. I'm sure gatekeeping him from us must be a running joke among them by now.
They really feel so proud of themselves for the meta plotline of “oh the audience doesn’t know what Daeron looks like just like Daemon!”
Which is nonsense he isn’t a prisoner at Oldtown and would be expected to attend events.
Same thing with Elinda being besties wirth a 14 year old Dyana despite relocating 10 years ago to Dragonstone and seemingly never leaving the place.
So the real Daeron would have to be there still, even in disguise, otherwise why would Tessarion just be randomly chilling next to people she doesn’t know?
Cuz of the plot switch with fake Daeron, there is a good possibility Real Daeron has Alicent's hair color and if they show him it would take away from the WOW factor.
chill out guys the season comes out in a few weeks. They're saving the best parts for the season(sunfyre, aegon and hopefully daeron too if they don't fuck him up)
Isn’t it because they want to preserve the (f)Daeron swap that was leaked through set photos? I imagine they plan to also trick the audience when watching it as a sort of plot twist, to make us believe (f)Daeron is the actual real Daeron
You need to clean your glasses bro. There's a dragonkeeper leaning down besides Tessarion, then there's three soldiers in front of him, then there's another dragonkeeper Infront of those soldiers. He (Daeron) isn't there
Why would they have Daeron next to his dragon so that Daemon could see him? That's one of the dragonkeepers. They would keep Daeron well hidden and not risk anything catching the eye of his pedo uncle.
You're wrongfully assuming this is the same scene as the encounter with Daemon though. Tessarion isnt in a pen and they arent at an encampment for one. Whihc is what the set leaks of that set with Daemon show. Notably they are right next to a river, it could be Honeywine for all we know.
Yeah me trying to explain Dearon to my dad is quite head ache inducing. My family loves GOT and Dunk and Egg but hates HOTD. It's because they did a bad job with trying to change things and then going back and trying to "cleverly" re-write them in. I am bewildered people think they can adapt the story better themselves than the writers. GRRM said just taking out this one subplot is going to haunt you later. Impacted them in season two. So silly. Hoping this season does well but I think the showrunners are not cut out for the job.
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u/Ok_Dimension548 2d ago
This whole impostor plot is really dumb. It just makes things more confusing, especially since the general audience doesn’t even know Alicent has a fourth child