r/GoNets • u/motripleog • 12d ago

Would the Knicks winning a championship be the best thing to happen to the Nets?

This Knicks run is a horrible feeling, considering that we have contributed to it. We pretty much have contributed to the Boston, Denver, Warriors 24 title run too, but that's neither here or there. But would the Knicks winning a title force the Nets to finally be competent? This is like when the Knicks missed out on Zion, KD, and Kyrie, and were forced to have a culture change cause they finally had competition in the city. Maybe this is cope, but I hope this run lights a fire under Joe Tsai. We need a complete culture change. This shit is sad

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u/RiseofParallax 11d ago

Knicks did exactly what we did: they saw they had something special with Brunson and went all in with high level players / his friends.

We did the same thing with Kyrie except our guy was a narcissist to say the least. To call us incompetent is complete hindsight bias.

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u/DriverInitial8305 10d ago

Thank you. I’m so sick of people ignoring the disaster that Kyrie Irving is as a professional. This same guy almost got Brad stevens in trouble in Boston and almost screwed up the brown and Tatum duo. People love to Monday morning qb but who else wouldn’t have traded for harden? So sick of people acting like the nets made these reckless moves that no one else would’ve made and it came back to haunt us

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u/cstatus94 11d ago

We can't compare ourselves to the Knicks. The roster they have been able to built was possible because Brunson took less money, does that happen if it's his Dad is not on the team? And can we expect any other superstar to do the same for us?

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u/GiannisIsaGreekZaza 11d ago

kyrie was a known headcase.

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u/motripleog 11d ago

The past 5 years have been nothing but incompetence from the front office. We have mismanaged most of our assets. Would you agree? Brunson wasn't a sure bet from the beginning. They actually did proper team building around him. Even if it is his friends, who he won a national championship with. Something we have not done

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u/BKtoDuval 11d ago

I would disagree. I think the Nets have been stockpiling assets the past two year. Going into the offseason with more cap space and more draft assets, at a time when draft picks are even more valuable.

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u/RiseofParallax 11d ago

We didn’t? There aren’t any more reports of high level offers we turned down for our players. If anything I’d argue we’ve made assets out of filler players (Schroder, MPJ etc)

We had 5 picks in an ass draft, there aren’t any reports of us turning down any trade offers and the jury is still out for them.

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u/Rude_Ad4735 11d ago

We wouldn’t have won anything with the team they had prior to them getting KD, Irving and Harden. Russell, Harris, Dinwiddie and Levert have had pretty mediocre careers after. Getting 6 and 8 in the last two lotteries definitely doesn’t help the Nets but if they got number one both years they would be in a way better spot with Cooper Flagg and whoever they would’ve picked this year.

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u/motripleog 11d ago

But we didn't get those picks. It's a lottery I get it. But they fumbled the draft last year. Didn't tank the Cooper Flagg draft properly. Didn't trade DFS, Dennis when they were suppose to. I think we need a new front office with a fresh perspective.

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u/TheRealCheddarBob 11d ago

Did the Mavs tank for Cooper Flagg properly?

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u/jdanko13 Ian Eagle 11d ago

They’re not beating OKC and fuck the Knicks!

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u/Stuupkid Spencer Dinwiddie 11d ago

Their “culture change” was getting good players who take pay cuts. And even then it might not be enough to stop OKC.

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u/MrRaspberryJam1 11d ago

Okay but they’ve made the playoffs 4 years in a row, back to back ECF and about to make the finals. It’s not all about winning championships, but I want to see the Nets not be shit for once

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u/Stuupkid Spencer Dinwiddie 11d ago

Their best shot was derailed because of injuries and James Harden/Ben Simmons. It was a short peak in 2021. It sucks but the only thing you can do is rebuild.

I don’t think it was really a culture change issue considering that many players seem to respect the organization.

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u/MrRaspberryJam1 11d ago

This team tanked for two years and has nothing to show for it. I’m just tired of the Nets being shit. It feels pointless to even watch the games. Life’s too short to waste away time watching shit basketball.

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u/Stuupkid Spencer Dinwiddie 11d ago

Bruh that’s the risk of tanking though, there’s a good shot you won’t get the 1st pick but it’s not the end of the world. Did you really want to run in back with the team they had in 2024?

And the league is never predetermined. Injuries and trades change everything overnight.

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u/MrRaspberryJam1 11d ago

I never said that, but they did a shit job at tanking and there’s not one needle moving player on the roster. Now the nets are about to go into next year without their draft pick and this roster is just not good. The Nets aren’t going to play a single meaningful game next year again, what’s the point in watching?

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u/Stuupkid Spencer Dinwiddie 11d ago

Tied best odds for 1st round pick is shit job? Cmon man this is just a joke. Don’t watch if you don’t want to.

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u/MrRaspberryJam1 11d ago

The year before they absolutely did a shit job at tanking

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u/fazedibee24 10d ago

Getting downvoted for wanting your team to win is a great representation of this franchise lol

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u/MrRaspberryJam1 10d ago

Yep this is why I’m so sick of NBA discourse honestly

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u/TinyMembership5109 11d ago

We only have these conversations because we got fucked over in the draft two years in a row especially this year if we would’ve gotten a top five pick in 25 any top four pick in 26 we would never have these types of conversations. Plus, it’s not enough for the next make the finals which they probably will. They have to win it and I don’t see them beating either the Spurs or the thunder in a seven game series.

Now, yes, when it’s not obviously because the other New York team is winning and we’re not but if you’re Sean Marx, you’re taking that trade for bridges 100% of the time the Knicks were the ones that offered all those pics for a role player, especially during that time where he was falling off like crazy after being a first option

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u/GiannisIsaGreekZaza 11d ago

knicks final is pretty horrible for nets. There's literally no hope of ever building a fan base here.

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u/TinyMembership5109 11d ago edited 11d ago

That’s true, but there was never any hope in the first place. The only chance the nets really had was when they merged with the NBA and they would’ve been able to keep Dr. J but obviously with what happened that really fucked them over. But there’s still one of the most profitable teams in the NBA, which is crazy to think about.

Also, the governor of Jersey said that he would want the nets to come back to Jersey. The problem is like I said the Nets owner make way too much money off the team and even the Barclay Center itself.

For them, they really only care about money

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u/Scared-Square7496 11d ago

NJ Gov is a woman. Just an FYI

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u/GiannisIsaGreekZaza 10d ago

knicks being bad with the nets being good would've at least given us a shot at building a small fan base. now its pretty much done, any kid will be a knicks fan. nets are totally irrelevant now which sucks. combine that with not getting a star in the draft and we're basically an arena for opposing fans at this point.

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u/cstatus94 11d ago

I think that is the biggest problem, not that we can never get to a point where we are competitive or contenders but how do we build a fan base. Out of all the NYC teams we are probably in the worse situation compared to our counter parts. The closest comparison is maybe Yankees/Mets but the Mets have a pretty large fan base in their own right and solid foothold of local support especially in Queens.

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u/motripleog 11d ago

The Bridges trade isn't an issue. The lottery isn't even an issue. After drafting 5 rookies, having all the draft pick. There's not one player on the roster that you're excited about. The organization has been stalled since the Big 3 got traded away. They have consistently mismanaged assets, didn't tank properly in the Cooper Flag draft. I think we just need a new front office. The Ben Simmons trade when they didn't check his medical was enough to get fired. This is 5 years of BS

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u/TinyMembership5109 11d ago

Well, the Ben Simmons trade was a lose lose since the 76ers didn’t even get past the second round. Plus, it’s only their first year. Give it time. Egor was probably the second best three-point shooter this year among rookies behind kon I think you guys were good that he was breaking some of his own records for rookies

But I get what you mean I definitely feel like we should’ve traded up in the draft. Hopefully this year we can move up especially having MPJ at an all-time high value.

But like I said, if we actually were able to crack the top five in both these years, we would not be saying anything because everybody knew going forward the nets were gonna tank

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u/Evilsj . 11d ago

There's not one player on the roster that you're excited about.

Buddy what the hell are you babbling about

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u/BKtoDuval 11d ago

Fans clamored for them to tank and rebuild. Team committed to a two-year tank. Fans realize tanking involves a lot of luck. Complain tanking is incompetent.

My advice, just focus on your team. Don't think about others.

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u/GiannisIsaGreekZaza 11d ago

Fans are pissed off how badly they messed up the 2025 tank. This year was luck, but finishing 6th in 2025 was legitimately fireable.

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u/Shaheen678 10d ago

Knicks got lucky. Nobody thoughts Brunson would ever be this good including them. Most commentators mocked them. That foundational piece is the only reason they were able to build this team around him. They ran through the East because Boston and Detroit imploded. Sometimes you just get lucky.

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u/Kwilly462 11d ago

Eh. I felt worse when Kyrie made the Finals. I don't hate anyone on the Knicks

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u/UnitedStateOfDenmark Jason Kidd 11d ago

Hart and Brunson literally caused turmoil in our locker room with the shit they were saying to Bridges behind the scenes. Bridges moped around the last few months of a season we were trying to win games because he wanted to go play with the buddies who constantly made fun of him playing on the Nets.

They both constantly go on their dumb podcast and shit on the Nets.

How can you not hate those guys?

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u/chiefteef8 11d ago

KD and Claxon publicly talked smack about yhe knicks when they were on top of the world. Its sports, theyre gonna yap

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u/UnitedStateOfDenmark Jason Kidd 11d ago

And the Knicks fans hate them for that.

This is different though. Those two bred discontent in our locker room using their friendship with Bridges. That’s beyond them talking smack

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u/BKtoDuval 11d ago

I agree. I get the college teammate thing, but nah, I can't pretend it's okay. I'm not cool with that. I don't know what they say now but eff them.

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u/sunkcostbro 3d ago

When the Nets do things the right way people complain... When they swing for the fences people complain... Y'all got to pick a side.

What the Knicks built isn't even replicable. How many times are you going to get a bunch of boys from college who are not ass who all want to play together and force themselves to one team?