r/GoNets • u/LinuxUbuntuOS Egor Demin • 12d ago
If the Nets underachieve next year, should Marks be fired?
Whether it be due to the five rookies we took last year all turning into busts, the rookies we take next month not being any good (due to a dumb reach or whatever), or anything else (not making good enough offseason moves), do you think that will be the end of Marks in Brooklyn, or do you think he should be given more chances to build a winning team?
I’m not trying to suggest that he should be on the hot seat right now, so don’t jump to conclusions
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u/ABAFBAASD 12d ago
One thing Marks had going for him even if the team sucks is the player salaries. Yes the roster is his job, yes the coach is his job yes the team is the product of coach and roster, but end of the day if we have the lowest payroll in the league it's hard to underachieve.
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u/BKtoDuval 12d ago
My brutha, I'm still healing from this year. Can we get through the draft first before speculating about next year being a bust?
I honestly think we are gonna see a decent team because Jordi will be in CotY contention.
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u/GiannisIsaGreekZaza 10d ago
i respect the cope. its more likely we'll be one of the bottom 3 teams next year. There will be no tanking teams and we will likely have the worst roster in the league except maybe the kings.
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u/BKtoDuval 9d ago
Let's see how the offseason plays out first before calling next season a bust
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u/GiannisIsaGreekZaza 9d ago
Its good to be realistic. Wizards/pacers/utah/grizzlies are all WAY better then us. bulls will be way better then us if they sign a big or two. The only team we could compete with are the likes of the kings/pelicans/bucks if giannis is traded. We have zero talent, we traded it all for these picks and didn't end up hitting in the lotto (2025 was marks fault, this year was just bad luck)
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u/Joserlifts 12d ago
Underachieve in what terms? Very very few NBA teams go from bottom 3 record to play-in; we just don't have the horses. So what does underachieve mean? 22 wins? 25? I seriously doubt this team sniffs over 25 wins.
With that said, Marks basically has to be perfect from here on out.
Every signing, every trade, every pick has to be the right one. If he signs Peyton Watson and he turns into another Allen Crabbee, he's fired.
If the 2026 pick busts, he's fired.
If he makes a big trade, and it doesn't work out, he's fired (he's done this twice already BTW.)
I give him TWO years.
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u/Fair-Night3803 12d ago
Let’s see what the roster looks like before we “fire” Marks for “underachieving”
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u/Brooklyn917 Day'Ron Sharpe 12d ago
At this point Sean Marks is Tsai's right hand man so if you want him gone, get Tsai to sell the team.
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u/LinuxUbuntuOS Egor Demin 12d ago
Nah I disagree, Marks was hired before Tsai bought the team, and the guy he hired to run the Liberty has done a great job.
You could potentially blame the failure of the superteam we had on KD and Kyrie, which gives Marks some leeway. If he is unable to build a winning roster without those distractions, Tsai will probably fire him
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u/GTR_11 12d ago
Prok consulted with Tsai before hiring Marks ( Pavlova admitted such fact ). Razumov said Marks was Tsai hire before article was put down and than trashed by Bob.
I can care less what old fart said. Tsai hired Marks and has immunity to do whatever shit he does.
Sean Trash should've been fired long time ago.
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u/DriverInitial8305 12d ago
Do you have a source for that? Joe tsai didn’t buy a minority stake in the Nets until April 2018, marks was hired Feb 2016.
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u/GTR_11 12d ago
Bob aka Netsdaily, he admitted such fact while talking with Pavlova.
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u/DriverInitial8305 11d ago
Where’s the source to this? Can you link it? I’ve been reading nets daily for decades now and never heard of that
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u/MissyMurders 12d ago
What does underachievement look like with a team as lacking in talent as we're shaping up to have?
We have a decent coach, so imo so long as we see steps taken with the thing guys, that's all we can really ask for. We simply need to develop enough talent to turn them into notable trade chips
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u/UnitedStateOfDenmark Jason Kidd 12d ago
Here’s what I think we need to see:
1. We need at least one of the ‘25 rookies to take a drastic step forward.They don’t need to be a star, but it needs to be at the level of ok this guy can be part of the core of this team. We can’t settle on, “he shows flashes”.
Core would mean this guy can realistically be a top 4 player on a championship team. It cannot mean, we did a great job locking up our backup PG of the future.
The ‘26 rookie needs to have a 1st team all-rookie type of season. With the hype of this draft class, there’s no reason we should draft a player that will take 2 years to develop. There will be plenty of opportunity on this team. They need to show out.
We need to be fighting for a play-in spot. That’s really not that hard. If we aren’t that means we’re one of the 6 worst teams in the league. Results need to matter at some point. He has plenty of assets and cap space to put together a respectable team.
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u/PreviousBuilding7839 Kerry Kittles 12d ago edited 12d ago
If we see player development but have less wins than the 2025-2026 season, say we have 17 wins total in 2026-2027, would that be considered achievement?
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u/Chef_Bojan3 11d ago
If we have 17 wins total in 2026-2027, either we haven't seen any meaningful player development (and arguably it'll mean some massively disappointing steps in player development) or Jordi isn't close to the coach we thought he could be. In either case, it would be far from achievement. This Nets team managed 20 wins despite tanking aggressively at the end and shutting down a lot of players and sitting through rookie pains for 5 rookies, adding a top 6 pick and making moves in the offseason to improve the talent level should minimum end up with more wins than last year.
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u/Supreme_God_Bunny 12d ago
Some of y'all sound like casual basketball fans, How tf were bust? You can't say that till like year 4 o
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u/Gaben3124 MPJ 12d ago
The five rookies were not busts, they drafted 4 guys that were 19 years old and one guy that was 21 years old. One of those 19 year olds ended up being a super good 3pt shooter and solid connector as a rookie with a ton more room to grow.
The 21 year old was a solid defender that showed the ability to stretch the floor and connect plays as a 7 footer, and also has great mobility for his size.
The other 3 19 year olds are still projects, but all have great measurements and mobility for their size, and all showed potential skill-wise. Saying 5 of the rookies were busts is just wrong. If in a few years, they're all getting fringe minutes on teams, or out of the league, then it would be reasonable to say they were busts.
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u/Fishyblue11 Brook Lopez 12d ago
I don't think anyone should be judged for any picks at 20 onwards, so really taking the risk on demin and whoever we pick at 6 should be the only judgement points as to whether we continue to trust marks in this area or not
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u/Significant-Bath-727 12d ago
i hope we get acuff as we need a point guard that can also score the bucket. we could lucky and he could be the next shay. brown would also be nice
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u/GiannisIsaGreekZaza 10d ago
at least acuff would excite the fan base a little. he'll probably never be good enough but brunson is horrible on defense too. if you surrond them with defeneders it can work.
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u/Worth_Concentrate_53 12d ago
I would keep marks but he’d be on very thin ice if we suck again in 2027 and don’t show measurable improvement or promise
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u/PatioGone 12d ago
First we need to know what moves will be done. Cant underachieve if you have no one to play serious basketball really. Even more so when other tankers like Wizards or Jazz gonna step up massively. Dont want to be too pessimistic but we can fall behind even more after failed draft lottery.
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u/Fishyblue11 Brook Lopez 12d ago
Hard to underachieve when there are no expectations
I will say this, if the nets picks in the top 10 ultimately don't work out, then marks needs to go
Other than that, hard to say how you can have any demands when you're expected to suck. That is the ultimate job security, can't expect much from me if we're always expected to lose!
If marks makes no good moves, like any trades, any good signings, then the case grows stronger, if we're looking at a Travis outlaw Johan Petro Jordan farmar off-season part 2
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u/Fishyblue11 Brook Lopez 12d ago
I don't need marks to go out and sign a star or trade for a star. But I do need marks to go out this summer and sign actual positive contributors. We need to see him sign guys to deals that turn out to be steals.
We can't have a roster made up of g-league guys anymore. I don't care if it's some vet that's there for veteran presence, like a Harrison Barnes, that's still 10x better than our roster being g league territory. We need a roster of NBA caliber positive contributors.
We can't have a Travis outlaw 2.0
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u/Rell_Lauren 12d ago
He should have been fired a long time ago but Marks is Tsai's guy so that's not happening. You can't ask for that kind of job security. Tsai destroyed their ability to compete then ran away.
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u/addictivesign 12d ago
I fully expect the Nets to be the worst team in the NBA next season as currently Brooklyn has by far the least talent out of all NBA rosters.
Sean Marks just drafted five first round picks and I imagine will draft two or possibly three more first round picks next month.
This tells me the owner has a lot of confidence in Sean Marks and is going to give him plenty of time to see those young players develop
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u/Historical-Mud-1218 12d ago
Time for him use some of those future picks to secure TOP level young players versus the current crop of midlevel youngsters.
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u/Fancy_Ad_5522 9d ago
Sean Marks must have hired a bunch of people to regularly patrol Reddit and downvote any criticism of him. Why else would anyone still defend him? Every time someone points out how incompetent he is, the only reply is, 'He had no assets when he first took over the team.' Come on, it's been years now. In 2025, he had five draft picks and didn't trade a single one of them — used all five picks himself, and none of those players have shown any star potential. Even Masai Ujiri, who helped the Raptors win a championship, got fired. I don't know what gives Sean Marks the right to keep his job.
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u/Renzel0311 12d ago
Feel like you should have put some thought before even posting this. You’re going to have to wait till 2 years if the rookies are busts or not. And what does underachieving even mean for this roster for you?? If this team can at best get the 6th that would be the finals for this team. Ideally this team should try to hover in the playin it’s going to be a competition next season
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u/DarnellisFromMars 12d ago
Marks is an interesting GM… I’ve loved a lot of his moves and have trusted his process multiple times.
Hes gotten the franchise out of some bad spots.
That being said he’s also put the org in some bad spots too, and has made his fair share of mistakes.
He’s been a GM for a while now, and there’s always some excuse or variable where he never gets the full brunt of the blame. If the media cared more about the Nets he’d be fired, in my opinion.