r/ExploreFortMyers • u/Greylunes1 🗞️ News Seeker • Jan 24 '26
ICE involved content We’re being told he violently approached the Gestapo with his gun out.
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u/vtsandtrooper Jan 24 '26
Arrest Bovino, arrest the ICE nazi. Lying to cover up a crime, and murder itself, are felonies. Minnesota is fully within its rights to arrest
If the feds block it then they choose war over law
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u/King_James_77 Jan 24 '26
Hands up with his phone visibly in his hand. What the fuck is this rhetoric I’m seeing on r/conservative?
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u/RedditSucksYoYoYo Jan 24 '26
It’s called blatantly lying to not face how wrong and stupid they are.
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u/Wonderful_crunch Jan 24 '26
The people in r/conservative will believe whatever Donald Trump tell them.
We should have never tried to stop them from injecting bleach
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u/Special-Garlic1203 Jan 24 '26
I legitimately don't think there's many real Americans conservatives left there. There's been so many times Trump contradicted stuff he ran on that Republican voters were like "WTF, love you Donald but that's not what i voted for?" And they'd get banned. At this point I think it's a combo of dead internet theory and cult posturing , where I think Trump gets a lot of his "organic" support from global fascists moreso than your standard neocon.
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u/Jaded_Noise Jan 24 '26
It's always really weird. Occasionally he does something particularly stupid (Greenland recently) and half will be like "We don't want this" and the other half will be like "why is he doing this, there must be a reason, who could have expected that he would do this" and I just don't get it
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u/Popular-Confection56 Jan 24 '26
the crazy part is, when i scrolled down in the main post on r/Conservative i found comments with just as much upvotes and awards as the top comments where someone was calling out the fact that it was just murder. this is so insane the echo chamber is cracking. the fact that they are so dogmatic is crazy, but if the DHS keeps protecting ice like this it will shatter the base even further.
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u/Excellent-Ad-1678 Jan 24 '26
If you think there’s a difference between Crispus Attucks, the first casualty of the American Revolution, and Alex Jeffrey Pretti, you don’t get to call yourself a patriot.
Both were civilians confronting agents of the state.
By MAGA logic, the Founding Fathers shouldn’t have resisted arrest either and the Revolution should never have happened.
In 1776, the British Crown considered the Founders criminals deserving execution for treason.
That’s historical fact.
You don’t get to celebrate the Revolution, call yourself a Patriot or an Oath Keeper or the 1% while condemning resistance to state violence.
Patriotism isn’t obedience.
It’s resisting power when it turns on the people.
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u/Interesting_Walk_271 Jan 24 '26
Who you gonna believe, your own eyes or an entire administration of lying psychopaths?
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u/TR_abc_246 Jan 24 '26
GESTAPO LIARS SHOT HIM IN THE BACK!
THEY SHOT HIM IN THE BACK WHILE HE WAS FACE DOWN ON THE GROUND!
FUCKING ICE NAZIS!
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u/Shoddy_Dish3458 Jan 24 '26
Then another continued to unholster his gun and shot his motionless body another 4 or 5 times...
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u/brokencreedman Jan 24 '26
Are they actually saying that? I hadn't seen that. It's very clearly a camera. He's very clearly recording them. Fuck Republicans.
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u/Accomplished_Set2554 Jan 24 '26
I've already seen hundreds of comments between youtube, reddit and instagram spreading the lie that he was armed/attacking them/ brandishing a weapon/ whatever version they believed first.
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u/brokencreedman Jan 24 '26
Oh yeah, I've seen those ones for sure. They're too fragile to recognize the truth of what happened.
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u/Accomplished_Set2554 Jan 24 '26
It would be the easiest layup in the world for them to just acknowledge this "one bad shoot" and then go with the narrative that "see this is what happens when agitators create an environment where law enforcement is on edge!" Or something along those lines. But no, their first instinct is to either make up lies or fall for lies without verifying.
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u/Agitated-Actuary-195 Jan 24 '26
ICU Nurse looking after VETS…. This is what America says is a domestic terrorist
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u/Kind-Block-9027 Jan 24 '26
Corporate media is complicit in the rising adoption of authoritarian governance, the actions of ICE across the U.S., and the death of Alex Jeffrey Pretti and Renee Nicole Good.
https://open.substack.com/pub/justaskinquestchins/p/from-language-to-screens-using-communication
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u/Lub_Dub Jan 24 '26
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
George Orwell, 1984
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u/MoribundHipster Jan 24 '26
I wonder what the lying DHS fucks are going to say now? That this video is AI? Those pathetic fucks will do or say anything to avoid holding their untrained, frothing-at-the-mouth, nazi pieces of shit ICE officers accountable. God they all deserve ********
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u/whoisowlix Jan 24 '26
Looks like right pig is spraying pepper spray and left pig is grabbing at the gun and either falling on the ice, as they have been known to do, or getting some collateral pepper spray while trying to illegally take this man's bolstered registered weapon from him cause theyre mad hes filming them tear gassing a woman. You know. Cause hes a nurse?
Literally murdered because they know what theyre doing is wrong and god forbid anyone else have a gun outside but them.
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u/Unfair_Surprise_6022 Jan 24 '26
I feel sick. America is completely fucked. 40 % will believe what they are told and the 6 Cowards who murdered him will be the presidential medal of honor.
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u/chrisnavillus Jan 24 '26
We are not listening to what they tell us. They are liars. They are fascists. They are nazis. Fuck them.
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u/Ok-Original6320 Jan 24 '26
This pisses me off. Im so mad at the state of this country. Minnesota was always such a beautiful place. This sucks
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u/Crowbar_Freeman Jan 24 '26
Alex was unarmed when he was killed. His legally carried gun was taken out by an agent seconds before he was shot. He never even touched it.
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u/GoldenboyFTW Jan 24 '26
You can literally see the pepper spray coming out while he’s holding a phone
Abolish ICE. Arrest all of them.
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Jan 24 '26
But didn't we watch it being taken from his waist (holster?) Take it if feeling threatened, but Dear God, why pump his body with bullets 🥺 this is devastating beyond belief I'm praying for his loved ones.👵🏿 🥀🕊💔🙏🏿🥺
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Jan 24 '26
If you are not training with a firearm, you should be. Also organize with those around you and learn small group tactics and how to set up a hasty ambush. It’s 2A time.
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u/Ok_Bar_924 Jan 24 '26
Even if that were true, there is video of the gun being removed and then the man was murdered.
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u/whiter4bbitz Jan 24 '26
They need to just stop with the charades, everyone can literally see everything on the videos at all angles even… just like Renee Good. They can’t lie their way out of this, the facts are recorded.
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u/that1cooldude Jan 24 '26
Remember, DHS claims he went there to “massacre” dhs. Those were their words.
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u/SnooGrapes7647 Jan 24 '26
It’s funny seeing all these leftists defending the second amendment now that a tyrannical government is presenting itself what a joke.
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u/ajtreee Jan 24 '26
He was protecting women being abused by these thugs. They took his life and everything he would ever accomplish.
They need to be tried and hanged for treason and murder.
i will be doing everything legally possible to remove this regime.
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u/WOR58 Jan 24 '26
Arrests and charges filed for all involved. This is not a justifiable offense. The shooter and abeiters need to be charged with murder.
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u/Glittering_Nobody402 Jan 24 '26
Another magat murder! They won't be happy until everyone who disagrees with them is dead.
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Jan 24 '26
Now they're just outright murdering protestors. Renee Goode was an example, this guy is the result.
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u/ThomasMalloc Jan 24 '26
Nobody said he had his gun out. He just aggressive grabbed law enforcement while being armed.
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u/LuvLifts Jan 24 '26
Looks like a Phone to me, being ATTACKED by someone Powertripping bc Drumpf made ‘him’ feel Seen!!!
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u/Alarmed-Animal7575 Jan 25 '26
This picture needs to be plastered everywhere. This is the picture they clearly shows the lie being told by Republicans tonight.
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u/Moopies Jan 25 '26
The video from the lady in the pink coat makes it incredibly obvious. You can see clearly, that the agent shoves the woman to the ground for yelling at him. Then when Alex steps between them, he puts his hand up quickly to show he isn't going to fight and turns around to help the woman. The agent THEN grabs Alex's hand out of the air, and starts macing him. When Alex leans away from the officer and starts continuing away, the officer maces him AGAIN and then closes distance a few steps in order to shove him to the ground from behind. Alex falls onto the woman who was initially shoved, and the agent PULLS HIM UP and into the street. While Alex and the woman are still holding onto each other, they are separated by the agents. THEN Alex is finally brought to the ground in the middle of the street.
The agent forces all of this. Not to mention the disarming and then shooting.
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u/crucial_velocity Jan 25 '26
We're not being told that. We're smart. We've seen the footage. They're telling that to your racist uncle. They're telling that to your Fox news watching parents. They're telling that to the people who eat what are fed to them and then run around vomiting little bits and pieces of it on all their idiot friends. They're selling the lie to people dumb enough to buy it.
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u/consumeshroomz Jan 25 '26
You can’t even tell he has a gun on him. Which is irrelevant because he’s allowed to have one.
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u/referee-superfan Jan 25 '26
Where are you hearing that? So far outside of some crazy people on the internet, I’ve only seen people be rational about this. Because it’s obvious they straight up executed a protester.
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u/odoylecharlotte Jan 25 '26
We're also being told the "Agents" were surrounded by "a crowd of 200 rioters", and feared for their lives.
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u/Apart_Ad1151 Jan 25 '26
Every time Trump gets into hot water, ICE agents do something egregious by shooting/murdering a law abiding citizen. Once we're distracted with that, Trump then does something outrageous. Rinse and repeat. Whatever it takes to avoid the release of the Epstein files. Whatever it takes to push us closer to martial law. Whatever it takes to stop the midterm elections.
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u/Jkistner94 Jan 25 '26
This is the frist title I've see with anyone saying he approached violently...
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u/DiagonalBike Jan 25 '26
Trump or more accurate Miller is trying to provide a response to these murders so that Trump can declare martial law and cancel the 2026 elections.
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u/intFrostedBlakes Jan 25 '26
While I agree this is bad, and the agents should be punished, there is no outrage over the hundreds of thousands of US citizens lives lost by the hands of illegal aliens. Not one video from Charlie. Yes, this was wrong, yes the man should still be alive, but the selective outrage is infuriating. You people shed no tears unless its an ICE agent fucking up. You people shed no tears for the thousands of rape victims, murder victims, trafficking victims at the hands of illegal criminals. Give me a break.
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u/FAMILIARBREW Jan 25 '26
Gun was never out, holstered the entire time until the agent removed it from his holster and took it. He was gunned down, unarmed.
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u/WTFOMGBBQ Jan 25 '26
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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u/Longjumping_Walk_992 Jan 25 '26
A bunch of ill experienced agents with a us against them mentality who were exasperated and exhausted from countless encounters with protesters.
A radical protester on a mission to harass was haphazardly attempting to protect some woman he was hoping to impress had brought a gun to a protest because he thought it would impress his friends to be big and brave.
He gets caught up in the struggle and got mad and but hurt that he of all people was not respected by law enforcement while doing there duties. Instead of walking away and obeying lawful commands to not obstruct the situation reaches a point of unavoidable escalation.
Agents attempt to take him to the ground and arrest him but he refuses to be handcuffed and struggles against the agents trying to restrain him. During the struggle the persons personal weapon is discovered.
Agents are trained in the academy to call out a gun when it is discovered. Other agents who hear this alert and not able to see whether the gun is a threat or not assume the person who is involved in a active struggle with the agents assume the person struggling has a gun and is about to use it. The agents have a reason to believe their lives are now in danger produce their own firearms to eliminate the threat.
This will be investigated and judged against the federal deadly force policy and not public sentiment.
These protesters are bringing doom on themselves and being used for propaganda purposes to fight against the sitting presidents mandate to remove illegal immigrants from America. The powers that fund the anti police movement are not risking their own lives, I assure you. They are evangelizing and recruiting others to do their bidding. No different than Hamas leadership paying jihadi terrorists to blow themselves up in crowds of innocent civilians.
These protesters are unwitting actors caught up in something they truly don’t fully understand.
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u/jaslr4 Jan 25 '26
At this point we should be sending a message - vote Democrat vote independent vote anything but Republican - embarrassed lifetime Republican
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u/Ok_Branch8409 Jan 25 '26
Don’t believe your eyes and ears, only believe what the Dear Leader tells you.
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u/opportunitysure066 Jan 25 '26
It’s an attack on liberals. They are targeting them through protests. Only liberals are protesting ICE and they know this. ICE has full immunity…it is fascists/Nazis and proudboys that are these ice agents. They are sadistic, and not trained. They don’t care about deaths or children or hurting people. They probably get a monetary incentive each time they kill a protester.
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Jan 25 '26
Grey jacket agent removing Pretti’s gun and guy on the left says fuck it I’m going to kill him anyway.
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u/One_Breadfruit_301 Jan 25 '26
He died protecting those 2 women that ICE assaulted. An honorable man, till his last breath.
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u/elvisfan66 Jan 25 '26
Dear Democrats,
If your governors and mayors like Walz and Frey would TURN OVER illegals arrested in their cities to ICE instead of releasing them into the community, ICE wouldn’t have to come en masse and deal with riots and violence. Close to 500 criminals released into Minneapolis alone.
Furthermore, STOP LYING about ICE. They DID NOT kidnap and arrest a 5 year old. The child’s dad RAN from ICE, LEAVING the child. At that point, what was ICE supposed to do? Ultimately the man was caught and both the man and the child are being deported together. Nobody placed a 5 year old in cuffs and arrested them.
STOP LYING about BOTH ICE shootings. This was an armed man who was told to disarm by law enforcement and again resisted. Law enforcement is NOT REQUIRED to take a bullet before defending themselves. You show up to a riot with a gun and two magazines of ammo, and refuse law enforcement instructions, you are risking your life. If an officer is threatened, he/she will use deadly force to stay alive.
Finally, recognize there are PAID agitators in these crowds and their purpose is to distract from the mass fraud. This chaos is intentional and those creating it are being utilized as useful idiots.
Signed, The majority of Americans with common sense.
Rob Bryant
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u/TylerBenson Jan 25 '26
It’s absolutely infuriating that they’re trying to frame him when there’s clear video evidence that he never pulled a gun. He was executed and it’s sad and disgusting.
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u/CinnamonToastFecks Jan 25 '26
Remember when the left was labeled hysterical by the Gadsden flag crowd for recognizing this is where we would end up if Trump were re-elected?
Well I would like to say: WE TOLD YOU SO
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u/Mac62961 Jan 25 '26
The lies are just all they know. These are felons, rapists, murderers and pedophiles. Nothing they say is truth
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u/Organic_Fan_2824 Jan 25 '26
He definitely didn't do that.
He did actively resist law enforcement, with a concealed weapon.
That ususally doesn't turn out to be a good idea for people.
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u/achieveabetterworld Jan 25 '26
Canadians support your fight against the Republican fascists in America. May Americans have the wisdom and the will to defeat fascism in America.
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u/callme-T-803 Jan 25 '26
Yes, they are telling lies again, trying to control the narrative. Everyone needs to share all the video angles, and let the evidence speak for itself. These people lie about everything. They need to be held accountable.
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u/LimitPusher24x7 Jan 25 '26
It takes a different level of inhumanity to shoot a body and empty the magazine while the body is lying motionless. These masked men are surely convicted felons.
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u/Ancient_Poet_4953 Jan 25 '26
2nd amendment is a joke. It's just an officerish's permit to kill. The guy is surrounded by agents, he is not even an immigrant. Once they see the weapon they all shoot him... 🤷♂️ What a fickleness, double Standard! Shame on officials just giving an excuse. At one moment, the weapon is a constitutional right; the next, it becomes a pretext to gun someone down. It is a legislative 'mood' that shifts depending on who is holding the gun. It is a reality where the law does not apply in the same way for the officer and the citizen, or varies depending on a person's origin. Instead of acknowledging the tension, instead of opening their eyes to the fact that a significant portion of the people stands against these actions, we are once again met with a video or an official offering excuses. Where is the leader who will finally offer a more human analysis of the situation? When a system refuses to see its own contradictions, it ends up imposing violence instead of protecting the freedom it claims to defend. We are far from the idea of uplifting people; we are in a logic of 'Pharaonic' constraint where brute force prevails over the law."
I. Ezekiel 29:3 — The Illusion of Absolute Ownership "Speak, and say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his rivers, which hath said, My river is mine own, and I have made it for myself."
This passage highlights the arrogance of a power that believes it created its own authority and owns the very resources and laws it should be managing for the good of all.
II. Ezekiel 34:3-4 — The Abuse of the Weak by the Protectors "Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock. The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them."
This emphasizes the failure of those in power who, instead of healing or protecting the vulnerable, use "force and cruelty" to maintain control.
III. Isaiah 14:5-6 — The Breaking of the Oppressor’s Staff "The Lord hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers. He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth."
This verse describes the inevitable downfall of a system that rules through anger and "continual strokes" rather than through justice and elevation.
IV. Exodus 7:13-14 — The Blindness of the Hardened Heart "And he hardened Pharaoh's heart, that he hearkened not unto them; as the Lord had said. And the Lord said unto Moses, Pharaoh's heart is hardened, he refuseth to let the people go."
This illustrates the systemic refusal to listen to reason or recognize the truth, preferring to remain "hardened" in a state of contradiction and denial.
V. Exodus 1:13-14 — The Rigor of Inhuman Servitude "And the Egyptians made the children of Israel to serve with rigour: And they made their lives bitter with hard bondage, in mortar, and in brick, and in all manner of service in the field: all their service, wherein they made them serve, was with rigour."
This reminds us of the bitterness caused by a power that imposes "rigour" and "hard bondage," crushing the human spirit under the weight of an unyielding and cold system.
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u/RevolutionaryLime928 Jan 25 '26
That lady with the red backpack stirred up some shit, got him killed , and then walked away like nothing happened.
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u/18ekko Jan 25 '26
A full day later, after the whole world has seen every angle of video, Bovino is on tv STILL railing about how this man "brought a gun to a riot".
This is the whole "riot": Pretti trying to protect two women who ICE shoved to the pavement and pepper sprayed point blank to the face.
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u/Melodic-Resolve-6778 Jan 24 '26
I'm sorry, my mind's already made up. The guy was executed for protecting two women slipping on the ice while being shoved by the ICE officer.