r/DeadlockTheGame 8d ago

Meme After reading the patch notes:

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Greebs mains rejoice

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u/kidnamedsquidfart Billy 8d ago

saw a mast vid on using echo shard with grasping hands, had a good game replicating it

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u/somnosanct 8d ago

this was always viable, people just didn't bother doing it

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u/kidnamedsquidfart Billy 8d ago

but they changed it so you also get 1 ghoul with no levels & 2 on t3

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u/DieUhRia 7d ago

Yea but by the time you'd get echo on you would have hands maxed, it was fun and viable prepatch now it's just funner and viabler

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u/Terrible-Metal-7508 8d ago

I don’t play graves but is the ghoul not basically guaranteed damage if you land root on them? Seems like it would be a solid base damage buff to her kit

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u/somnosanct 8d ago

it's okay but the root is the important part of the skill

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u/SimonSayz_Gamer 8d ago

I agree, but if you miss the root, the ghouls have a chance to make up for it. if the ability was just summoning three ghouls, it would still be a great ability because of the burst damage threat they create.

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u/mxe363 8d ago

Sure but that's just a bonus to the root. Getting a good root off can garunteed a kill zom or no zom. 

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u/Terrible-Metal-7508 8d ago

Right, but she’s always had that. Now they added damage and stronger shove on top of that

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u/Babyback-the-Butcher 8d ago

They definitely help tho. People underestimate how much damage those fellas do

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u/residentevilgoat Graves 8d ago

The humble 3200 item purchase.

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u/oxero Graves 8d ago

Echo Jar of Dead preformed better in my experience, but she was still wildly underpowered. Having one zombie all the time and two zombies at max level makes it worth it to echo wall. I'd even be okay with them removing the wall damage if it needs to be nerfed, having the ability to summon stuff is what makes her strong.

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u/Tornado_Hunter24 8d ago

Wouldn’t it be better to do echo shard on skulls?

I imagine a player cab’t do shit it 2 jars are pn their head while stuck

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u/Alexander_Baidtach 7d ago

You can counter skulls with a single light melee...

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u/Tornado_Hunter24 7d ago

I know you can but try doing that everytime, I never play graves but when I did i’d parry their lmelee’s to my skulls

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u/ForStoryPurposes 4d ago

It's pretty much the best build. I use it/a variation of Mayo's build. I still figuring out what to build early game before Echo.