r/CasualIreland 2h ago

Shite Talk Shouldn't it be frowned upon to not disclose salary on job listings?

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u/MajorGreenhorn 2h ago

New law coming in that all jobs must have a salary band listing on jobs. Meant to be coming in in June 7th

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2026/0517/1573483-eu-pay-transparency-directive/

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u/Shot_Sport200 1h ago

salary band will list min wage to industry rate, salary expectation will still be asked so its a race to the bottom of who is willing to work for the least amount. 

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u/BasicTill4803 2h ago

Not exactly, it states that the range must be given before the first interview, not places in the job ad. So companies can still get around this by not posting the salary range and only disclosing it when they decide they want to interview you and reach out to schedule the interview.

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u/Tangy_Cheese 2h ago

Not frowned upon, it should be the law to list the rate/salary

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u/letsdocraic 2h ago

It’s pending EU law at the moment. Should expect Ireland to have it adopted by end of year 

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u/Maleficent-Laugh-800 2h ago

Cause it’s all minimum wage

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u/vinceswish 2h ago

Highly competitive salary

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u/Gunty1 2h ago

Competing for the bottom

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u/thatbrickisbadforyou 2h ago

It will be illegal from.june 7th under eupt legislation

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u/PotatoPixie90210 2h ago

Brilliant, I think it's such bullshit that they won't list it.

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u/Specialist-Flow3015 2h ago

By EU law, this is supposed to be illegal from June 7th.

However, the Irish government has shown zero intent or even desire to draft legislation obliging employers and will most likely need to be dragged kicking and screaming to it, the same way they were with the bottle and can return scheme.

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u/Barilla3113 2h ago

One man's employer is another man's source of non-donation "gifts".

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u/Alarmed_Station6185 2h ago

I always assume its minimum wage if they dont specify on jobs like that

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u/snewchybewchies 2h ago

It should be illegal 

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u/myrenyath 2h ago

It will be illegal

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u/Noble_Ox 2h ago

It will be in 5 days.

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u/Gwanbulance 1h ago

It should be in 5 days, but of course our Government hasn’t actually enacted the necessary legislation (there isn’t even a draft) or issued any guidance.

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2026/0517/1573483-eu-pay-transparency-directive/

So the June 7th deadline imposed by the EU will be missed here.

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u/emseatwooo 2h ago

Both of those are 100% minimum wage, that’s why

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u/Much_Tax4681 2h ago

With a chance to increase after 6months that will definitely never happen

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u/pogmothoinmallaithe 2h ago edited 1h ago

In my experience these are always very low paying jobs. I never apply to them anymore. The last one was paying 10 grand less than my current salary even though the job description made the role seem like it would be a management role. I only found out the salary at the interview. I was so annoyed I’d wasted annual leave for that.

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u/zemerin3 2h ago

It will be as of June 7th

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u/ChiselDragon 2h ago

Yep, it's a dumb thing to do as well unless it's at or close to minimum wage.

Employers should be assessing the market (plenty of data out there) determining a range and publishing it. What they will get in response to this is people who are applying for anything and everything who won't be happy with the salary on offer, which is a massive waste of time for everyone involved. The more information you have in a job spec, the better matches of candidates you are likely to get.

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u/Natural-Hunter-3 2h ago

It's 30c above minimum usually.

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u/ClankClankYoureDead 1h ago

The CeX one is definitely minimum wage. Supervisor wage is one Euro extra a hour. I worked there for a long time, it never seemed worth it to aim for being a supervisor or manager.

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u/Coyltonian 1h ago

If it is undisclosed I assume it is either minimum wage or commission only. Never been wrong yet!

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u/ExcitementStrict7115 1h ago

Definitely, no one should have to waste hours of their time interviewing again and again just to find out that the job pays less that their current one.

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u/phyneas 1h ago

If they don't say, it's because they're going to underpay you as much as possible. If they were going to offer you a decent salary, they'd be shouting it from the rooftops to get more good candidates to apply.

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u/sunshinesustenance 1h ago

I applied for a position lately that stated that the salary was 45-57k depending on experience. Once I sent my c.v in, they called me straight away. I had to jump through hoops in terms of registering with their online system, filling out basically my whole c.v again and stated my salary expectations at 57k. I got an interview which I had to take a days leave to attend.

Interview went great. I realised that the job was extremely easy and I was actually overqualified for, but the prospect of a 57k salary sounded right (not completely off of my current salary). They called 2 days later to say they were very impressed with my experience and they wanted to offer me the job as I was a perfect fit, but they could only offer 45k.

I (as politely as I could at that point) told them to go get fucked after wasting so much of my time and stringing me along even though I stated that my salary expectations were 57k.

So even stating their salary ranges is no guarantee that these companies won't completely waste your time.

And this was a prominent medical devices company, recruiting directly.

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u/Acceptable_Golf_8623 2h ago

What's the bets that when the law comes in, the ranges posted will be so wide as to be meaningless?

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u/StillMusic9451 2h ago

Then how will he exploit?

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u/LadderFast8826 1h ago

Theyre obviously minimum wage

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u/Agusfresin 2h ago

I’d ask what the executive duties are exactly

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u/Bulky_Pilot9293 2h ago

It's competitive that's all you need to know - recruiters probably 

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u/box_of_carrots 1h ago

Any job listing that doesn't show salary or hourly rate I ignore.

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u/Mackwiss 1h ago

what Am I in the Casual Portugal Sub? No companies disclose salaries here sadaly

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u/RainyFern 1h ago

When I lived abroad I was a bit cheeky and asked the salary range before attending an interview (it wouldnt be unusual for the salary to be lowball as I was a newish immigrant to that country, so I didnt want to waste my or the interviewers time), he cancelled the interview because I asked the salary and essentially called me unprofessional . I made a complaint to the HR dept and they apologised but it should be a bare minimum that salary is disclosed upfront.

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u/Daltesse 1h ago

Next week they'll have to show a salary

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u/TheOriginalMattMan Non leg washer (aka filthy bastard) 39m ago

If it's not listed, it's not good.

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u/lbyrne74 39m ago

Funny you should mention that - we had an email today mentioning a job ad and asking for salary range before the person applied. It was to our general email address which is how I saw it. I had to admire them for being so forthright. No point in wasting time if the salary is not anywhere near what they need. It should be frowned upon in my opinion.