r/BambuLab 4d ago

A Series [A1, A1 Mini] A2L Speculation

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What’s everyone think it’s gonna be?

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u/Engineary 4d ago

Gotta be larger than 300x300 plate, at minimum?

I'm excited! My A1 is great, but I would love to go that little bit bigger on a few of my prints.

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u/reptile_enthusiast_ 4d ago

I have a feeling it'll use the H series plates.

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u/fujimonster 4d ago

That would make the most sense from a systems perspective -- same nozzles, plates, etc.

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u/Captainatom931 4d ago

I used to work for a reseller and there was a rumour doing the rounds of a 500x500 printer, which I struggle to believe. 500 is enormous.

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u/Engineary 4d ago

That's almost 20"!! Unless the plate was completely static, I don't know how that would work.

Most people would need a dedicated room haha

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u/iWushock 4d ago

It’s called a bed slinger for a reason. You set it up and then because of space you have to use it as your bed. Luckily the A2L will have a “night night” mode that heats the bed up to a comfy temp to sleep at!

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u/ddd-printing A1 + AMS Lite 3d ago

And it could gently rock you to sleep as well with the Y axis!

Need one side warm for me and the other cool for my wife - we seem to have vastly different bed temp needs and then I'm sold on this.

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u/opndor 4d ago

Now THAT was funny.

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u/Captainatom931 4d ago

Yeah, there's no chance you could make a bedslinger that big lol.

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u/C4pnRedbeard 4d ago

Lol the cr10-s5 would like a word. It DOES work. It's also pretty darn slow. Used to have two of them, but one still runs daily.

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u/Captainatom931 4d ago

Damn I forgot about that printer!

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u/-__Doc__- 3d ago

Yeah I almost bought an svo8 max , but got an H2c instead and I barely have room for it. No WAY I coulda fit the max in my tiny place, lol

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u/honeybunches2010 4d ago

Especially on a bed slinger 😆

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u/Cryostatica H2C, P1S 4d ago

Yeah, there's an upper limit to how large a bed slinger can be before it starts having to move too slowly on the Y axis to be reasonable. Inertia's a thing.

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u/Spartan_J114 16h ago

I owned 2 of Creality's CR-10S5 Printers which were 500mm³ however they sucked hard due to them basically being a standard old school cr10 with bigger rails and no tech to support the bigger size. I believe bambulab could 100% do a 500mm³ printer but I'm not sure I'd want it to be a bed slinger

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u/Fun-Candle5881 A1 + AMS Lite 3d ago

Can’t see something so huge. The a1 already takes so much space for the moving bed. Or maybe they change the system entirely and the plate don’t move and it’s a modified rail system where the bed don’t go up and down but the toolhead does. Someone even spoke about a cnc module. And if we look at a cnc system it’s possible

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u/milehigh73a 3d ago

I have a friend with a 500x500 printer. It is core xy. I can’t imagine a bed slinger being effective that large

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u/Disastrous-Ad911 3d ago

500 would be glorious

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u/A_Dubs_ 4d ago

I’d love to replace my ender 3 max Neo (300x300mm). However I’d rather take up the same footprint with a 350mm coreXY

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u/Engineary 4d ago

Yeah, with the footprint the A1 already takes up, I think I'd need a full-size table longways just to cover the full plate path overhangs lol

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u/oral_servant 4d ago

But how would that work? If I get warping on the A1 Mini already sometimes, I can't imagine how a bed this large without enclosure could perform without warping.

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u/A_Dubs_ 4d ago

A lot of warping comes down to part design, build plate cleanliness, and build plate material.

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u/oral_servant 3d ago

Hmm. Oftentimes when I try to print something that covers the whole or most of the printing area in one direction, for example boxes of varying sizes, I have the corners lifting off more or less, or the build plate lifting off instead.  (And I always make sure the plates are clean, for something large I often use the Supertack plate and / or large brims, and I also design my stuff with round corners). I accepted it as part of the material properties and process with a not enclosed printer, but since some people are writing that there shouldn't be warping with the A1 Mini I would be thankful for further tips.

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u/ivorip 3d ago

If it still fits, turn on outer brim

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u/milehigh73a 3d ago

Add some rabbit ear brims and adjust cooling for first few layers.

Build plate matters some. I get less on my biqu plates, but it still happens.

I think most of it is build plate cleanliness though

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u/A_Dubs_ 3d ago

I also have these problems with my enclosed printers (whether I’m printing enclosed or venting). It’s mostly just the science of how things cool and their thermal properties.

If you aren’t already, every so often clean with PLAIN Dawn branded soap (others may have additives that coat the surface) and let it air dry / use a microfiber towel.

Another good option is using Vision Miner nano polymer adhesive. It’s a build plate adhesive, and it works wonders. If you let the parts cool fully, it will last 10-15 prints worth at least. VM saved me from throwing my Ender 3 with glass plate out the window.

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u/ghoztlighting 4d ago

tell me you don't print with ABS without telling me you don't print with ABS

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u/A_Dubs_ 4d ago edited 4d ago

Who TF is printing ABS with a bedslinger? I was talking about PLA & PETG. I never tried ABS, went straight to ASA on my enclosed printers since it’s less fumes and prints better.

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u/ghoztlighting 4d ago

a better question is who tf buys an A1? its 2026

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u/stealthybutthole 4d ago

Dumbest comments of the day award

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u/ghoztlighting 4d ago

its literally the only printer they make that's a fire hazard, but ok

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u/1ftm2fts3tgr4lg 3d ago

It literally isn't.
A component overheats, fails, and stops being hot.
It does not create nearly enough energy to crwate an external fire.
Never has.
It's a reliability issue, but it's not a fire hazard.
If you think it is, you spend too much time on this sub.
There's a million A1s and a few hundred failures. It's rare, and only on a faulty batch.
It's solved moving forward, and they replace failed (and healthy!) boards for free.
Again, precisely zero actual fires. Go touch grass.

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u/ghoztlighting 3d ago

Ah yes the perfectly safe melting component on a 3d Printer. This sub is amazing lmao

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u/starwyo 3d ago

99% of people buying them aren't chronically online.

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u/ivorip 4d ago

Many schools and libraries do. Teachers have them on desks as a novelty machine

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u/ghoztlighting 4d ago

that's irresponsible considering they're known for catching on fire. there are many other safe economical options

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u/1ftm2fts3tgr4lg 3d ago

Not one single unit has "caught fire".

The component that fails heats up, melts a spot of plastic, and dies, stops being hot. There has not been a single fire, as it fails exactly as designed to not be capable of starting a fire.

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u/ghoztlighting 3d ago

Sweet, can you me more about your reliable 3d printer that melts internal components? My H series printers don't.

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u/A_Dubs_ 4d ago

I don’t have one, but obviously some folks do and love them.

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u/Melancholy_Rainbows 4d ago

Probably people wanting to get into the hobby inexpensively. There's always going to be a market for a cheap entry point for newcomers and people who can't or don't want to spend as much.

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u/mrpbeaar 4d ago

But no one is printing ABS on a A1

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u/DrewAnderson 4d ago

Oh the hard-to-print filament isn’t printing well on your printer that wasn’t designed for it?

Also this is technically a part design issue too, if your ABS part was small enough it wouldn’t warp lol

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u/Lito_ 4d ago

Tell me WHO prints ABS on an A1 mini? What a stupid comment haha.

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u/ghosthud1 4d ago

Yeah, you shouldn’t be getting warping on either the A1 or mini. That’s a you problem.

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u/G0t7 3d ago

The 8+ year old Creality Cr-10 series (300x300; 400x400; 500x500) could already do this. My Cr-10s could print ABS just fine, but it's obviously not optimal or easy as other materials.

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u/BriYoshFR X2D + AMS2 Combo 4d ago

Im just wondering abt the price, I wanted to buy my 1st printer tomorrow (the X2D), but now I think I should wait more lol

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u/A_Dubs_ 4d ago

There are several manufacturers with new printer announcements in the coming week or two. Bambu, Elegoo, Creality..

Kinda odd how all the Chinese manufacturers all announce around the same time

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u/labubuking 3d ago

Same thing happening with the uv printers similar to eufy. Every darn chinese company is putting out a kickstarter (mostly) or releasing direct to website. Two weeks ago they gave us a timer before they raise price to msrp. Now they're $1000 more than previously. :/

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u/dEEkAy2k9 X2D + AMS2 Pro 4d ago

you should be patient and wait for various announcements before you buy something