r/AvatarSevenHavens • u/BradleighWil15 • 18h ago
Discussion *if* the dark avatar theory is true, which elements will they bend?
I haven't personally seen much discussion on this, but if it's something that's been talked about a lot, lmk! My first thought is obviously no, because Unalaq could only bend water, and he didn't go around to the lion turtles to get each element the way Wan did, however... It'd be really cool to see two avatars with 4 elements battling it out, and I think them retconning it would be cool, if it was a good retcon. I also think it'd be really interesting to see the dark avatar purposefully seeking out the new lion turtles to be given the elements so that they can be as powerful as Pavi. I also thought about how it'd be interesting if the dark avatar didn't just only bend water, but just whichever native element they'd have based on their parentage, but granted, I think the only reason the avatar cycle exists is because that's the specific order wan learned the elements in, so maybe that theory doesn't hold any water. Would love to hear what any of you guys have to say!
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u/yoroyab 18h ago
I know you are being hypothetical but imo that theory sucks, and your right since Unalaq could only bend water Nisha would bend water, but this doesn’t make sense because Unalaq died in the Dark Avatar State and Raava won Harmonic Convergence.
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u/Intelligent_Code2325 18h ago
vatu regrows in ravaa just like she did in him. stands to reason the splitting of them into twins from same egg separated them just like wan did just differently
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u/BradleighWil15 18h ago
Oh you're so right!!! I've never thought about the fact that he died in the avatar state so the cycle would've ended! God now I kinda hope they don't do it bc it'd be straying pretty far away from established canon
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u/gameboy224 18h ago edited 17h ago
If Nisha is a Dark Avatar, it would be virtually unrelated to Unalaq, aside from the fact Unalaq perished in the Avatar State, therefore "killing" Vaatu alongside him. Vaatu would be reborn from within Raava, depending how the creators want it to work, Vaatu splitting off from Raava is ample justification if they wanted him to inherit the "spark" or the other elements.
Now as far as the whole twin Avatar thing, if they do go through with it. I do hope they dig a little deeper, Roku already set a precedent that an Avatar can have twins that aren't the Avatar. Now, while Vaatu is a rouge element, Avatars being direct incarnation of Wan (now Korra specifically), twins don't share a soul. BUT, if the writers are willing to pull some spirit stuff where Pavi and Nisha are actually a single soul split in two, I'm all game.
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u/Intelligent_Code2325 16h ago
the reason why it’s never effected twin avatars such as Roku was vatu was in the tree those 10,000 years. he was defeated by korra destroyed for the first time. The cycle changed because the rules changed
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u/Key-Way6886 18h ago
I don’t think there would be a dark avatar since Vaatu won’t reemerge until the next harmonic convergence. Is that not right?
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u/memisbemus42069 16h ago
Either just water or all of them, maybe Vaatu copied them from Raava when they split
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u/_StrangeIsLife_ 16h ago
If the spirit form is considered an avatar state, it would only make sense to me that Nisha would only be able to bend earth.
I really don't like that theory, but if both of them have access to all 4 elements like it is said, it would mean Raava is in both twins. She split in two pieces when they were conceived. Well, I really don't like that idea, I know she's a spirit, but still.
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u/Conscious-Leave9433 15h ago
But the fire Lion Turtle is the last remaining one. The last thing we know he did was give Aang Energy bending which he used to spare the life of Ozai. Who’s part of the bad reputation of the element the Lion Turtle originally granted in the first place.
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u/overthinker_1218 12h ago
If there were a Dark Avatar, given Vaatu’s defeat, he would grow from within Raava, and so would have the ability to give a human all 4 elements as Raava does? Surely
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u/Complete_Cable2686 9h ago
I'm pretty sure it'd be all four because that's what the avatar is defined by. Honestly really excited for the potential of two avatars. The avatar has never been able to accomplish enough, and maybe two avatars are an attempt to do more.
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u/Fuuriooo_ 18h ago
Based on all the rumors that have surfaced about Ash, both twins apparently already wield all four elements. If that's true, then Unalaq is pretty much out of the equation (especially since he died in the Avatar State). So without resorting to Lion Turtle theories or other convoluted explanations, the most logical conclusion is that both of them are reincarnations of Korra.