Chinese Version to get a PvE event mode and 2 Boss in raid.

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u/CuddleWings *** ******* 🐓 15h ago

The Chinese version isn’t actively developed by Embark. They handed a version of the game off to Tencent and now have no hand in its development.

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u/Hwordin 15h ago

Though dual boss mode was in the leaks and different asymmetrical or more pvp/pve modes were in the survey, So we might eventually see it too.

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u/mr-purupurupuru 15h ago

handed a version ?

like sold... ?

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u/YearMountain3773 14h ago

Pretty much, they sold them the license to run the game there.

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u/oilytheotter 14h ago

Chinese government requirement

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u/Particular_Painter_4 7h ago

Essentially make it CCP compliant?

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u/Deprisonne 49m ago

I don't think there is anything in ARC Raiders that isn't already CCP compliant. But they have to hand off control over the Chinese part of the game to a Chinese company.

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u/DIYITGuy 15h ago

Handed a version in exchange for money I imagine

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u/lurkinglurkerwholurk *** ******* 🐓 11h ago edited 11h ago

Depends on the contract. It could be “pay us money for us to develop a version of the game with a different storefront” or “we will develop an API and teach you how to rewrite some of the source code, but the rest will remain black boxed” (LoL used this before Riot got bought out, I believe)

This is because no company on Earth would give the entire source code to an external developer, let alone a Chinese developer. As undeserved (?) as Chinese “steal everything” reputation is, they do leak stuff like a goddamn wet sponge. Expect the source appearing on the dark web two days later, and all the cheats based on the source code a week later.

And without the source code (or the API), nobody can develop shit. Maintain the servers and systems yes, but not drastically change the rules of the game engine (as the “friendly mode” events does)

Also: Even for western developers, giving up the code of a software is only inviting said company to dump the deal and suddenly have a “surprisingly similar” copycat game months later (there are at least THREE cases I know of, based only on the “elevator pitch” alone!!).

This is why if a major unreleased game have an engine code leak, development will instantly delay by a year or three to change the engine significantly, because the source code is just that much of a deal. (The example I can think of off the top of my head: half life 2)

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u/CarthageaDev 7h ago

Nexon owns the game anyway and are in close ties with Tencent, I don't think you understand that symmetrical development cycles to enter the Asian market are a common thing, no one is scared of stealing anything since both are big companies with already established autonomy in the Asian market.

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u/PatrickG1991 9h ago

The chinese robbery of technology is pretty much existent. Chinese companies buy up western tech and development companies, close up the works and move all the know how to china to work on that there. That‘s how they become a leading force in R&D in the last years.

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u/MollyTen-A 8h ago

The moment they buy it, it’s not robbery. 🫣

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u/Jaz1140 11h ago

Honestly thank God it's a different version all together so they are quarantined to their own servers. You think cheating is bad now, imagine if the Chinese were in our servers

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u/countpuchi 9h ago

Pubg players know that..

Red shirt army. Huge teaming squad and damn annoying.

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u/Jaz1140 6h ago

Dark and darker too

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u/CuddleWings *** ******* 🐓 11h ago

Even without cheating it’s a good thing. Just go look at what they’ve done with The Finals. There’s so interesting ideas in their LTMs but the cosmetics are awful. The one good cosmetic I’ve seen is locked behind like, $175 of gacha draws

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u/Radarker 4h ago

Lol. I don't think they care.

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u/x39- 3h ago

You phrased your sentence wrong: the Chinese version is actively developed.

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u/DarkFlameM17 15h ago

ngl they cooking with this dual boss is fire

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u/Ullho 15h ago

The dual boss thing was datamined the other month before riven tides, i wonder if we will get a version of it

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u/DarkFlameM17 15h ago

Probably october

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u/Hustlehard93 15h ago

Idk, I wouldn’t consider combining 2 bosses in one event a major update. We got a new gun after they made that announcement. They are doing minor updates just not major things like map releases

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u/Jman703OG 15h ago

I don’t know that any of it’s guaranteed to make it back in to non-Chinese versions but I’d be inclined to think it’d be introduced about halfway between Riven Tides and the next (~6 mo from that) major update…so probably 3 months IF it gets put in to the global version.

Idk, I think the dual boss thing sounds fun as hell though.

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u/Ullho 14h ago

Well keep in mind it was datamined from our version of the game. But then again we have also knowed about a toxic swamp event for like 5 months now and not seen it

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u/LonelyCakeEater 15h ago

They could use the rest of the beach that’s closed off. Perfect amount of room to take on a matriarch and queen

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u/Tohrazer 12h ago

That other new extraction shooter also getting a pve mode unexpectedly

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u/Hello-Bones 14h ago

Dual boss mode sounds fire

Rebellion mode sounds like it’ll just incentivize mixed lobbies away and it’ll be all PvE or all PvP

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u/Largestcandy123 13h ago

Is there a way to play the Chinese version outside of china?

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u/Poliveris 12h ago

More than likely you’d need to pass real name verification. It’s fairly difficult because you typically need a Chinese passport + face scan.

Sometimes there’s ways around it but with NDA tests it’s much more locked down!

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u/Zero_Heartz 9h ago

Fuuuuuck!

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u/InquisitorOverhauls 4h ago

So we cannot play there? That SUCKS.

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u/maufirf *** ******* 🐓 8h ago

Haven't done it for arc raiders but I sure did for other games like arknights and services like QQ or bilibili bc I need the access to that one TikTok font from Ziyu. I had help really back then from my friend who can speak Mandarin so I can chat with someone in cn that somehow able to provide some accounts via WeChat lmfao

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u/Jax_the_Floof 14h ago

What’s with video game companies always giving china exclusive content and not anyone else?

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u/prepuscular 14h ago

Govt says you can’t do business unless they control it, so they hand over access for cash. Then China develops extra stuff in addition

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u/inebriateddandhated 13h ago

China has a lot of weird rules and laws.

Companies dont want to get slaughtered by lawsuits.

Companies still want to profit

Company gives version and partial dev rights to China.

Profit.

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u/GamePlayingPleb 14h ago

china number one

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u/superchibisan2 14h ago

Korea number one!

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u/ProfessionalPiece403 5h ago

Fuck China.

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u/Ok-Friendship1635 4h ago

Fuck everyone, equally, indiscriminately.

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u/prepuscular 17m ago

True horndog mentality ftw

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u/Stupiduselessthrow 14h ago

Usually developed by a separate company

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u/GalterStuff 11h ago

In China, the government literally forces you to hand over your IP to a Chinese company to run, develop, and make money. You only get a share of the money even if the property is yours. Doesnt just apply to video games

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u/FreakinMaui 9h ago

Cause it wouldn’t be exclusive otherwise ? /jk

A simplistic explanation : china market big.
It leverages négociations.

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u/Difficult_Skin_2296 14h ago

I mean, in China they pay the money. In North America, a player spends $40 for 500 hours of entertainment and still think it’s not enough?

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u/GaptistePlayer 6h ago

It's the biggest market they want to enter

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u/lologugus *** ******* 🐓 4m ago

Because Tencent will ruin the game with gacha and slop, they already are promoting the game with AI generated content

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u/NOGUSEK 6h ago

This isnt video game companies, Its a video game company, Tencent, who Is a huge monopoly in porting games to china, gets most of the deals for chinese porting And then adds predatory monetization, And sometimes radical changes like this here (even though embark has already said how purely PvE doesnt work, and players need to trust each other when fighting)

Anyways dual boss sounds interesting, but either the matriarch and quenn are trying to fight side by side, which i cant imagine would work well for them, or theyre separated in their respective spawn points which, considering how PvE lobbies are (quenn dies faster than the harvester puzzle is done), just makes each raid have more loot.

PvE mode where you have to mark yourself to do PvP removes the point of trusting each other, yada yada yada embark already said this sucks; people would probably get bored of the game quickly with even the expedition losing its value because Its just too easy to do

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u/GaptistePlayer 6h ago

Also Tencent is partially owned by the Chinese government

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u/Woomy12 14h ago

I read somewhere it's due to China having a single timezone across the whole country, so they're able to get solid feedback and data from them (they're also mostly constructive with said feedback) before they release it to global.

Again, just something I heard. Not sure if it's true.

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u/ProfessionalPiece403 5h ago

Please never introduce a PvE only mode at least not into the regular game.
People will farm there and play PvP only in regular modes.

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u/Unfair_Jeweler_4286 14h ago

They did this with the finals as well.. use the Chinese servers as a "test bed" for content 👍

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u/slayermario 15h ago

Why we not getting this?

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u/GalterStuff 11h ago

In China, the government literally forces you to hand over your IP to a Chinese company to run, develop, and make money. You only get a share of the money even if the property is yours. Doesnt just apply to video games

Sure, Embark may bring over some ideas that are cool and successful, but it's practically a different company running the show over there (plus the extra independent man power)

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u/benethopper 13h ago

I’m just gonna’ go ahead and blame you. Boooo.

I believe it’s due to how China is licensing the product and developing it on their own and all that jazz.

On a more serious note, why you got to do that to us? Shame.

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u/NOGUSEK 6h ago

dual boss sounds interesting, but either the matriarch and quenn are trying to fight side by side, which i cant imagine would work well for them, or theyre separated in their respective spawn points which, considering how PvE lobbies are (quenn dies faster than the harvester puzzle is done), just makes each raid have more loot.

PvE mode where you have to mark yourself to do PvP removes the point of trusting each other, yada yada yada embark already said this sucks; people would probably get bored of the game quickly with even the expedition losing its value because Its just too easy to do (even in the global release there isnt much risk in fighting a boss, fighting a bastion has more risk because there arent a total of ten defibs in peoples pockets)

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u/KOT615 4h ago

More game modes means more dead game modes. Classic meta when there will be 1-2 game modes where u can find game and the others empty

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u/Alastor3 15h ago

we know and it's already on the front page, do people even freaking look before posting?

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u/TheAlienGamer007 14h ago

This is the 10th post I've seen about this shit and literally none has any details on how to actually play it or if its even possible.

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u/Intelligent-Net1034 14h ago

If you are bot in China. No

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u/Jasy9191 14h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/sXv0vaA4331Ti

That sounds awesome and like what I keep recommending, especially with PVP enabled but an alert sent to all other raiders. Makes PVP fun, and also PVE players ganking.

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u/Faulty_Plan 12h ago

I would kill for a no kill mode

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u/Upstairs-Echo2903 15h ago

Maybe Embark will learn something watching them implement in China.

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u/kingmanic 15h ago

Swedes looking at a dev with 9-9-6 culture is going to be hard to copy. Devs generally work hard everywhere but China has a youth employment issue and a work culture that is default grind then worse grind during crunch.

Chinese players also don'tind pay to win which gives more funds to hire more devs.

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u/Jasy9191 14h ago

As if people mind pay to win in the West in a drastically different fashion. It's crappy game design, but plenty of games have P2W, especially when you consider horizontal cosmetic games and include those in the way of flashy premium designs.

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u/Upstairs-Echo2903 14h ago

I don't want them to copy, but hopefully they can learn a thing or two from that implementation. They designed a fantastic game, but they manage it horribly and seem a bit deaf to what the players want.

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u/Ok-Friendship1635 4h ago

Doubt it.

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u/apimpnamedyabba 15h ago

I hope they do

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u/Advanced-Chard1566 5h ago

The Asian version isn’t that also coming with ACE anti cheat not this shitty Denuvo?

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u/BoggTheFrog 3h ago

I dont think that is a PvE mode as some are saying , for me that is more of a PvP mode where people get some advantage to hunt u down.

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u/TwilightZoneMara 2h ago

I’m gonna play the Chinese version if it’s better I’m gonna be pissed.

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u/Lucky_Flower1521 2h ago

Great idea now what’s Embark waiting to do the same thing with PvE ?

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u/dstlouis558 14h ago

Ambushers!

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u/Skipper1111111 15h ago

Cool 👍

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u/Intelligent-Net1034 14h ago

Pve playerbase in China is big. The rest of the world its tiny. So why make a Mode for 20% of players? Instead of something for all?

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u/Pei-toss 12h ago

a Mode for 20% of players

Not really.

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u/ChesnaughtZ 3h ago

Wow 10 percent higher. 40 percent like a mix. I don’t know if you’re trying to combine the two to get a bigger percentage

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u/Ok-Arachnid-890 15h ago

Can't wait till we finally get something like that

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u/OvalPutting 14h ago

at least we know it's possible now, so hopefully embark sees this and realizes people actually want pve content

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u/iAleph 15h ago

chinese this, chinese that, ya'll need to stfu with this chinese crap already

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u/AngryGames 14h ago

Must be sad to no longer be the most relevant, popular culture in the world. China has more gamers than the united states has total citizens. Of course we're going to hear a lot about China in every industry, profession, aspect.

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u/AiNeko00 12h ago

Buying & spending power, they have it.

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u/Alexlex25 12h ago

We need it, more options to choose, better variety.

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u/North_Tomatillo9712 15h ago

Chinals was already a thing. I always wonder if its possible to access these eastern version games outside of their borders.

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u/moxiemoon 13h ago

I need these

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u/Night_HUN 12h ago

I would love the rebellion mechanism both as a friendly, and as hostile

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u/NimblePasta 6h ago edited 6h ago

Yeah, the global version would tend to be a lot more "conservative" and try not to rock the boat too much (keeping to the overall vibe and lore), compared to the china version which is willing to experiment a lot more, as the chinese player base tends to be much more open to new features and content.

I guess the china version is a good avenue for the devs to test out these types of experimental events and game modes with their own local player base, and if it's well received... some of it might find it's way to the global version too.

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u/Hailbrewcifer666 15h ago

They should all move to china

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u/Malacky_C 6h ago

And what do us US players get 😭 hackers and rats

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u/MournivAlpha 15h ago

What the fuck...are you telling me they could have dropped this in the US but chose not to for the Chinese release????

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u/DIYITGuy 15h ago

No, Embark doesn’t manage the Chinese version. It’s more or less a different game with the same root.

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u/GalterStuff 11h ago

In China, the government literally forces you to hand over your IP to a Chinese company to run, develop, and make money. You only get a share of the money even if the property is yours. Doesnt just apply to video games

Sure, Embark may bring over some ideas that are cool and successful, but it's practically a different company running the show over there (plus the extra independent man power)

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u/CmdrJemison 14h ago

Yes,no one gives a shit about the US market anymore.

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u/Tohrazer 12h ago

Hilariously that other new extraction shooter is also getting a PVE mode before Arc Raiders.

Discussion Chinese Version to get a PvE event mode and 2 Boss in raid.

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