r/Anthroposophy 24d ago

"Evolution of Archon" Theory (My Theory combining both Steiner's beliefs and New Agers)

So apparently, there is a hierarchy regarding archon entities. Apparently, there are the Mantids who are the bosses of the Reptilians who bosses the Gray Aliens.

Then I thought this actually sounds strangely similar to the Asuras (humans in Old Saturn), Ahrimanic entities (humans in Old Sun), and Luciferic entities (humans in Old Moon).

What if this is basically a downward evolution while maintaining a humanoid body that has the ability to shapeshift into anything it desires?

Under this situation, the current Asuras who are in their mantid stage right now under the Earth's 4th stage of the 7 planetary cycle, the Asuras were probably in their Reptilian stage when the Earth used to be in the Old Moon stage.

This is pretty much the only explanation that makes sense to me while becoming more degraded in the long run while maintaining a humanoid form with a cold, logical (machine-like) intelligence.

Like just how the insects became reptiles which became primates which became humans, this downward evolution seems to be a mockery of this forward evolution of Darwinism.

Any thoughts regarding this theory of mine?

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u/mddrecovery 24d ago

I believe any reference to half-human half-animal beings is describing the inhabitants of the Eighth sphere. For example, Mantids = the human locusts

"This is a terrible truth, which is present, it's a truth, and when the Apocalypticer speaks about the plague of locusts during the trumpets epoch he is referring directly to human beings. Here again one can see how good the Apocalypticer's vision is, for such men in their astral body look exactly the way the Apocalypticer describes them—like etheric locusts with human faces."

https://rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA346/English/UNK1995/19240917v02.html

Lectures to Priests: The Apocalypse GA 346

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u/Aumpa 24d ago

My feeling is that this kind of speculative thinking might be better framed as creative science fiction rather than anything based on sense- or supersensible reality. You could explore it as a creative, artistic outlet, if you're so inclined. But personally I don't think it's useful as a "theory". There are already countless speculative theories.

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u/mddrecovery 24d ago

The framing should be done differently, with more reference to religious eschatology, mythology, esotericism, and so on. Basically, on traditional lines.

But I think ultimately these things are describing sub-sensible realities.

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u/Thin-Choice2539 22d ago

I think these things are old Saturn beings that didn’t evolve into matter when we did but finally have recently and their long living etheric life increased there intelligence exponentially so now that they finally have materialized they understand universal laws on whole different level.

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u/TruthAboutHeight 22d ago

I did say that Asuras were at their human stage back in the Old Saturn stage of Earth.

According to Steiner, either humans continue their evolution towards becoming archai (at the spiritual level) or they materialize harshly into becoming the "evil" race themselves.

So I thought that the gray aliens, Reptilians, and the mantids were a part of the human evolution into the evil race.

As humans are supposed to evolve into becoming archai via becoming angels and archangels first, the archons go their separate ways into depending on the "loosh" from humans in order to survive.

According to Steiner, Ahrimanic and Luciferic entities tries to extract as much matter as possible into the Eighth Sphere. The easiest way for them to extract matter is from the human's head. And it's from the head, where "Loosh" comes from. The archons need loosh in order to keep their Eighth Sphere area running smoothly.

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u/Aumpa 22d ago

Keep in mind that in each planetary evolution of Saturn, Sun, Moon, Earth, Jupiter, etc, each level of being has a completely different appearance and capacity than they do in other planetary evolution stages. So those on the "human level" in previous planetary evolution stages were not like humans today in appearance or capacities, and when humans today evolve to higher levels, we won't be the same as angels are today, even if we reach the "angel level".

IIRC, some the artistic representation of Eygptian gods as humans with animal heads were representing something of the different beings at different stages, but it's important not to take those representations *too* literally as ever having existed in a physical form like that.

So I think that conceptions of alien beings having different forms represents *something*, but not neccessarily their actual physical forms in reality.