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u/gatorsfan5192 13d ago

Ancient Greek Mythology whiteness was associated with attractiveness and status, as those of darker skin spent more time outside "laboring".

it's an ancient culture, argue against their ideals all you want but this is simply a political motivation for race swapping Helen of Troy. It's dumb, it's counter to the story. I'll just not watch it 🤷

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u/anthonyg1500 13d ago

If I wanted to argue about the race swap, I would’ve honed in on you saying a *black* woman as the most beautiful woman in Greece. I did not do that. I never mentioned her race. Idc about the race swap but I know that people are pissed about it and I don’t see the benefit in arguing with every commenter when neither of us are going to change our minds. I just thought calling out her being bald was weird and I hadn’t seen that before so I asked what that had to do anything. And in response you’re telling me about Ancient Greece ideals regarding whiteness…

Again. You guys are not mad at me.

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u/gatorsfan5192 13d ago

I've seen quite a few photos of Lupita and she is typically either, bald or extremely short haired. It's an odd thing to hone in on, as that's not really my issue. Helen of Troy was supposed to be so beautiful she was worth fighting a war over. I do not think Lupita is attractive, and she doesn't look like a Greek at all. It's just counter to common sense.

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u/anthonyg1500 13d ago

Well I think the hair being odd to hone on is why I asked because I thought why is it worth mentioning in your original comment. It just felt random so maybe it was a big deal in the story. I’m not going to try to argue with you over whether you should think Lupita is beautiful, I think she is but that’s your prerogative. I’d only say that any woman that plays the role, someone somewhere is gonna think she’s not beautiful.

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u/gatorsfan5192 13d ago

Because baldness is not conventional held as an attractive hair style for women, neither is it for men.

Also, idk about all that. Beauty is subjective but you can recognize conventionally attractive people, Lupita doesn't fall under that category for me.

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u/anthonyg1500 13d ago edited 13d ago

Well exactly, doesn’t fall under “for you”. That’s personal opinion now. Conventional attractiveness does exist but parts of it ebb and flow over time and a lot of it is stuff like face symmetry, good skin, nody proportions, it’s stuff that does describe Lupita. A lot of the other stuff comes down to personal opinion which is fine. There’s plenty of it girls that I recognize are conventionally attractive and my friends go crazy for but they aren’t really my type and the same thing vice versa.

I also don’t know if hair is like a hallmark of conventional attractiveness or if that’s just part of style that changes over time because like I said what is seen as attractive does. There’s a chart of women’s looks over the decades and how it differs what’s seen as hot, although in fairness that’s mostly like weight, boob size, waist size etc. if I remember right but hair could be like that.

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u/gatorsfan5192 13d ago

I don't understand you at all, you spend paragraphs trying to explain away something very simple. She isn't the right person for the role, period. If the director wanted to tell his own story maybe he shouldn't of called it "the Odyssey"

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u/anthonyg1500 13d ago edited 13d ago

You weren’t using conventional attraction correctly so I explained it to you. Take a deep breath buddy

EDIT: Blocking someone because they told you saying someone isn’t “conventionally attractive **to me** ” is using the term wrong. Lol great stuff