r/AmIFreeToGo • u/No_Box119 • 1d ago
A man being arrested in Alabama was bitten by a police K-9 and bit the dog back.
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u/Mean-Pizza6915 1d ago
All police dog use is animal abuse, and an unacceptable use of violence by the government.
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u/duckredbeard 1d ago
I've seen videos of cops pushing dogs into cars where the driver has their hands up and unable to open their door because of cops standing at their windows with guns drawn.
What the actual fuck are we supposed to do?
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u/Sebagrind 1d ago
Stand still while getting mauled and shot, I guess.
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u/shoulda-known-better 1d ago
Dude in a headlock has one leg in the air being held and they release a dog on him......
Anyone who thinks you can get your body to not fight back in a situation like this is dumb and wrong as fuck..... I hope this man has enough money to sue those pricks....
At that point it does not matter what he did that was fucked up.....
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u/Tobits_Dog 1d ago
{Dude in a headlock has one leg in the air being held and they release a dog on him......
At that point it does not matter what he did…}
For a Title 42 section 1983 Fourth Amendment excessive force claim it does matter what he did.
“The question here is whether that framework permits courts, in evaluating a police shooting (or other use of force), to apply the so-called moment-of-threat rule used in the courts below. Under that rule, a court looks only to the circumstances existing at the precise time an officer perceived the threat inducing him to shoot. Today, we reject that approach as improperly narrowing the requisite Fourth Amendment analysis. To assess whether an officer acted reasonably in using force, a court must consider all the relevant circumstances, including facts and events leading up to the climactic moment.”
_—Barnes v. Felix,_ 145 S. Ct. 1353 - Supreme Court 2025
[Most notable here, the "totality of the circumstances" inquiry into a use of force has no time limit. Of course, the situation at the precise time of the shooting will often be what matters most; it is, after all, the officer's choice in that moment that is under review. But earlier facts and circumstances may bear on how a reasonable officer would have understood and responded to later ones. Or as the Federal Government puts the point, those later, "in-the-moment" facts "cannot be hermetically sealed off from the context in which they arose." Brief for United States as Amicus Curiae 14. Taking account of that context may benefit either party in an excessive-force case. Prior events may show, for example, why a reasonable officer would have perceived otherwise ambiguous conduct of a suspect as threatening. Or instead they may show why such an officer would have perceived the same conduct as innocuous. The history of the interaction, as well as other past circumstances known to the officer, thus may inform the reasonableness of the use of force.]
_—Barnes v. Felix,_ 145 S. Ct. 1353 - Supreme Court 2025
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u/majorwfpod 1d ago
The flaw in the ruling is “reasonable officer.” There is no such thing. It should be “reasonable person.”
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u/shoulda-known-better 1d ago
Yea and 4 cops and a dog are attached to you, with atleast 3 more cop directly in the background is a situation a reasonable person would think it's okay to beat and sic a dog on !!???
Thats the argument?? If cop just feels unsafe!?
He must not have been armed because they wouldn't have even got close to him so how is he such a threat with all those things on him that you need to yank his head back, multiple people hit him and pull different directions while a dog bites the hell out of him!? And if he was super dangerous why not spray and taze!!??? Why do they get to beat you up while yelling don't resist!!??
A reasonable person would hopefully want a gang of people who did that to have to use the same self defense standards as everyone else does, and this would be assault not self defense if a member of public did this to someone....
No one forces this dangerous job on anyone, and there are many many examples of it being done without cops dying left and right without the over use of force....
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u/Tobits_Dog 23h ago
I never said that putting the dog on him was reasonable. I only said that courts must consider the totality of the circumstances, not just the moment of threat.
He did resist arrest. I also tend to think that using the dog was excessive in this instance.
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u/shoulda-known-better 21h ago
When the video starts you have no idea if he resisted or if they all grabbed and shouted different shit while hitting him....
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u/silic0n_jesus 1d ago
Stop resisting is one of the most violent statements you can say to a person while you're beating them
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u/NM-PunkLife 1d ago
Police dogs are bred and trained to harm you any way it can. They can't find drugs better than a regular ass guess, actually guessing has a higher correct percentage than dog sniff. They are the teeth of the Police state.