r/7thTimeLoop Apr 04 '26

Do you guys think Arnold had a good reason to start the war?

Even though in past lives he’s had blood lust, we’ve learned more about him having a good heart. Do you guys think there was a good reason to start it, or was it for power? Would it start for the same reason as the other lives?

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u/yingweibb Apr 04 '26

eh. i personally feel like there is never a good reason to start a war, period.

but with this novel, i can only hope the justification for why arnold did it would make us understand him and be on his side. rishe, come leash your man

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u/UnitBackground8863 Apr 04 '26

true tbh. i think i was hoping maybe there was some sort of vicious villain he was trying to take down but idk

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u/yingweibb Apr 04 '26

oh wait a minute, yeah, kinda? remember the mysterious man in LN6? the one who rishe theorizes can also time travel? wonder how he plays into the major plot...

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u/UnitBackground8863 Apr 04 '26

WAIT yeah. i totally forgot about him. He escaped too so he’s still out there

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u/Rahnna4 Apr 04 '26

This is my theory, that he dreams of the future and sees that he needs a united continent and a large army to stand against whatever that strange guy from LN6 represents (and I suspect a rival god/goddess). The goddess behind Rishe has her loop so that there’s a better way to achieve that

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u/mpluto Apr 04 '26

A personal theory I've had is that perhaps it's not that Arnold wants to start the war, but he is backed into a place to start the war when he kills his dad.

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u/UnitBackground8863 Apr 04 '26

yeah i was thinking that too. just because i don’t see a reason for him to start a war yet

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u/Outrageous_Lynx8266 6d ago

Maybe his father killed his bro and in revenge kill him back but starting a war cause of that would be out the question what if another country killed his bro and his dad didn’t care about it and out of rage killed his dad

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u/mpluto 4d ago

Well, also consider things like the counterfit scheme, which has been thwarted, and Coyoles' generally weak position at the moment. Plus, Rishe is very likely altering Arnold to clues/hints/evidence about people who will one day betray either him or his father down the line.....

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u/Original-Water7867 Apr 04 '26

My theory is to avenge his mother and to take it out on the church but do so he needed to involve the world. In the anime he looked so emotionally unstable and drained.

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u/Outrageous_Lynx8266 6d ago

But why wait so long he’s a very skilled swords man by the age of nine

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u/Original-Water7867 6d ago

Arnold’s very realistic and calculated, talent isn’t enough to take down a church so widely worshipped and respected. Arnold’s known from a young age he couldn’t be careless with his actions, so he needs time for the preparations.

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u/ultravioletheart08 Apr 05 '26

The theories here on this Reddit post are really good!

I have several of my own, but for now, I hold to the fact that Touko Amekawa said that she will reveal Arnold's POV again (after that short V1 snippet) once all of Arnold's secrets are revealed (to Rishe).

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u/Spirited-Success-821 Apr 05 '26

All we have gotten was Rishe's view on the war. What we saw through her 7th loop was just how clueless she was about a good many aspects of it. Through her journey with Arnold she slowly starts to learn that a good many countries and shadow orgs have been working against Arnold's country in various ways. Most of the smaller countries he obliterated in past loops where duty/alliance bound to oppose him when he started his war. But to me the reason he started the war is looking more and more like retaliation against the the more economic/covert warfare other countries where waging against him.

Only now Rishe has shown him different and better ways to diffuse most of those situations and instead of concoring those smaller nations he has formed mutually benificial alliances with them thus weakening the ability of those other big countries and the shadow org from harming his country.

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u/UnitBackground8863 Apr 07 '26

Yeah i agree. It’ll be interesting to see how the author will approach this - i’m assuming the war in each timeline had a similar cause but maybe not?

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u/Emotional_Drawer5775 Apr 04 '26

My personal fan theory is in the past 6 lives his dad kills Theo and that is what makes Arnold lose his humanity and why he killed his dad

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u/UnitBackground8863 Apr 04 '26

Oooh interesting. How do you think it leads to the world war

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u/Emotional_Drawer5775 Apr 04 '26

There is a Secret society that is running alot of the other countries and currently blackmailing his dad when dad dies they become more proactive and Arnold decides to take them out

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u/loveintime111 Apr 04 '26

wait ... you lowk cooked w this

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u/SunnyCynic Apr 05 '26

Based on the LNs- Arnold is 10 steps ahead of everyone, so I know he has a good reason. Definitely not for power though. Whether it’s justified or not and if he went about it the best way he could have…. probably not. That’s what Rishe is for this time around

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u/UnitBackground8863 Apr 05 '26

oh agreed. man definitely has a plan, hopefully a logical one

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u/Ok_Tadpole12 Apr 19 '26

I think that only if Arnold is a normal person(i.e, he can't reincarnate or have any power of the goddess)he avenged his father, became the emperor of Galkahein, and started a war, conquering every country shortly after. He ultimately ended his life due to all the guilt that he had harboured, which ultimately led to Theodore becoming the next emperor. He did so because he was concerned about his brother's regime after his death. Tbh Theodore once also mentioned that Arnold is trying to disappear without any trace....

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u/UnitBackground8863 Apr 19 '26

interesting... you might be onto something here.

personally, i think arnold is looping too - he seemed fixated on rishe having knight training, and given their battle in her last life as a knight, it feels too much to be a coincidence. I guess we'll see!

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u/Ok_Tadpole12 Apr 19 '26

Hehehe I am so desperate to know what lies behind Arnold😭

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u/UnitBackground8863 Apr 19 '26

same!!! it better be good

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u/Outrageous_Lynx8266 6d ago

We need another 7th time loop with his point of view I think after it ends the writer should make another with his point of view

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u/Free_Zucchini5536 27d ago

I have only just completed the anime, so I don't know much, but it doesn't sit right with me for him to start waging war on the world for no reason. Him turning Kyle down and telling him invading and taking over is more his style is logical, at least to him. The moral soundness is debatable of course, but I imagine he has a reason. Someone in the comments mentioned Rishe seeing other countries covertly working against his empire, thus I imagine one reason would be him starting the war to wipe out all the civilizations that stood against him in the shadows and starting anew. His reasons for his hatred of his father remain a mystery to me, however, but it may have something to do with his mother (Again i havent read the LNs so I don't know).