r/50501 • u/templeofsyrinx1 • Feb 13 '26
Call to Action On Trump repealing the facts of climate change in the EPA just a few hours ago. This is it guys. The big time.
Not sure if everyone's heard this yet, but the POTUS just repealed the EPA's standard that greenhouse gases are causing climate change earlier today and it is hitting the news now. Which means the EPA no longer has any power to regulate greenhouse gas emissions. Yes, read again. This decision is not based in facts or evidence. It was done unilaterally by decree and is in total contradiction of everything we know to be true about the warming on the planet.
The EPA, BY LAW, has the authority to regulate climate pollution, and this will go to the courts the wheels are in motion as we speak.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/12/climate/trump-repeals-epa-endangerment-finding
With that being said, what we are seeing and living through is no longer a spectator game or sick joke, where you can sit by and watch it unfold, go to work, come home, live your life as usual. This is a fight for survival now and whether the country has it in it to change course. This president in addition to all the other depravities he has committed is now officially endangering you, your friends, your family, the country, the world and the whole planet and everyone that shares it.
This is the most backwards shit yet with the constant flooding of the zone they are doing. Just remember the guy who couldn't give a shit about you is reversing hundreds of years of scientific progress and advance in science, health, law, everything, so he can get richer and his friends can get richer and bring the country to its knees so a few can rule over it.
And it's happening, right now. You're seeing it everywhere. It's never too late, but things are spiraling now. A lot of this can still be changed.
Remember that in November. And if he interferes in the vote, well, all bets are off as to what happens next.
This is it. The big time. This is the one they worried about and didn't think someone this depraved could be elected. You're living through it, we all are. And we need to come out the other side and put this horrific episode as a lesson in the history books.
Look to the civil rights movement in the 1960's. That is where the power has always been for successful change. Civil rights, and human rights. The right to breath clean air, drink clean water, to live in peace with our neighbors on a planet that has a future for humanity.
I don't know what else to say guys. Please take these words and ideas and use them however you see fit.
my heart is hurting tonight for the planet and the inhabitants..thanks and peace.
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u/KddKc Feb 13 '26
This. This is how it looked daily in LA when I was growing up. How so many people think this guy is “making America great again” is just insane. This has to end.
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u/OpheliaOrcana Feb 13 '26
Remember when people said ferngully and captain planet were as subtle as a sledgehammer?
Yeah, turns out they had reason to be a sledgehammer.
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u/aeschenkarnos Feb 13 '26
Except by people who apparently watched them and thought "I'm gonna be one of those villains when I grow up!"
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u/Poonchow Feb 13 '26
We need a satirical version. Captain Oligarchy!
- Apathy!
- Lies!
- Greed!
- Division!
- Exploitation!
With our powers combined, we summon.... Captain Oligarchy!
"Looks like this toxic sludge is killing the town! Quick, we need to blame the locals, fire the safety team in our own companies, bribe the news, issue a milquetoast statement, and sponsor the local highschool football team! Together, we can make these lawsuits disappear and save the DuPont corporation! For the shareholders!"
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u/Boricua1213 Feb 13 '26
We had smog days where in school we weren't allowed to play outside.
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u/KddKc Feb 13 '26
Yep, I remember that. The teacher pulling out board games for recess because it wasn’t safe to breathe out there.
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u/FruitSalad0911 Feb 13 '26
Yeah I grew up in Birmingham Alabama in the ‘60s & 70’s and on good days the air looked like this. On the bad days you couldn’t see sh*t, but every breath you took, you knew it. I went off to rural MS to college and would always be shocked at re-entry into the toxic air upon returning home of rotten-egg smell. EPA is still remediating many sites to this day. I Guess we can kiss that bye-bye.
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u/Bring_cookies Feb 13 '26
Is that Houston? Jk, but that's where I'm near and same. Around the port and plants are even worse. My dad worked in Pasadena, a little south of Houston and it's nickname is Stinkadina, or at least it was in the 90s. It did have a smell.
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u/loveofjazz Feb 13 '26
Soon, we’ll be breathing out of tanks If something ain’t done about the squank
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u/cvc4455 Feb 13 '26
Then they get to sell us air to breathe! Probably even have a subscription for it.
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u/SentenceKindly Feb 13 '26
I did a satire piece for my Marketing class in college, where I created a product called "Th'air!" It was canned air. It was supposed to be a joke.
Maybe I need to get my prototypes up and running again....
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u/cvc4455 Feb 13 '26
They already sell canned air. It was a product that was on Shark tank years ago called boost oxygen and Kevin O'Leary invested a million into it. You may have missed your shot.
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u/SentenceKindly Feb 13 '26
That's right. Remember oxygen bars, too?
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u/cvc4455 Feb 13 '26
I completely forgot about oxygen bars but now that you mentioned it I do remember thinking how ridiculous an oxygen bar sounded.
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u/Monarc73 Feb 13 '26
"Someday you won't own anything, and you'll be HAPPY about it."
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u/DontRunReds Feb 13 '26
I just shared a memory about flying through LA as a child, but I vividly remember Houston being a close second for awful air in my personal ranking. What I also reme,ber though is that with some regulation it was a lot cleaner when I was 20 than when I was like 5.
And besides the outdoor air pollution I also have to give kudos to the progress from normalized indoor cigarettes to smoke-free restaurants.
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u/phxbimmer Feb 13 '26
My only hope is that since California has its own strict emissions regulations with CARB, they’ll continue to uphold proper standards even if the rest of the country is consumed by “clean coal.”
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u/KddKc Feb 13 '26
There’s currently talk of the federal govt taking over California beaches. You know that’s to allow mass drilling. That has to be stopped or CA standards won’t matter anymore.
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u/BlyLomdi Feb 14 '26
The saving grace in this is that states have more power than the federal government (or, they are supposed to as it is written in the constitution; so.... we will see). So, the states should be able to step in and put their foot down. Unfortunately, the leadership in some states bleed orange, so we will have to see.
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u/trojanguy Feb 13 '26
I went to school and worked in LA in the late 90s and early 2000s and there were a lot of days where you couldn't see past half a mile because of the smog. The idea that this could come back because of Trump and his ass backward policies is so frustrating.
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u/0Tyrael0 Feb 13 '26
Yeah I drove to LA with friends in like 08 and even then it was way worse than I have seen it probably ever since. I live in San Diego so I visit frequently enough, it’s gotten so much better.
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u/styx66 Feb 13 '26
Anybody remember acid rain?
Lord. Why can't we just keep progressing forward? I don't get why clean,pretty and closest to natural state alone aren't enough for these people even if unhealthy and climate-catastrophic weren't true.
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u/gillyyak Feb 13 '26
I think it could be easier to post a list of companies that haven't bent the knee....
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u/DontRunReds Feb 13 '26
When I was about 12, I had an overnight layover through LA. I remember the shockingly bad air just assaulting my lungs when I got near enough the airport exit to make way for the hotel. And my eyes burned with irritation.
Some years later, when I was looking for colleges to attend, I kept getting solicited by Harvey Mudd and the other Pamona colleges. I looked up, on a physical map then, how far Pamona was from LA. I figured it wasn't far enough away to avoid smog and that I'd have to fly to LA to attend, and I noped out of considering that whole set of colleges. I didn't care how good they looked in paper, I wasn't convinced LA would have cleaned up enough to have safe air at that point.
I'd been around some bad air earlier in my childhood, but after that point in time had been around pretty good air in the rural town where I grew up. I was not about to do bad air again.
I know the disease statistics, but more than that I remember feelings in my own body. And the horror of politicians playing tough guy while sticking their heads in the sand, making these sacrifice zones, and ignoring that physics doesn't care if humans can live on earth or not is maddening.
Thank you for sharing the picture and dredging up some important memories.
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u/Sweeneybeani Feb 13 '26
Yep, I grew up in the San Joaquin Valley and that smog was everywhere. When I was really young I could see the Sierra Nevada range so clearly and by the time I graduated it was so hazy.
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u/ymmotvomit Feb 13 '26
Well, they’re great at stirring a turd in order to divert from the Epstein files. Luckily they’re not great enough. This should get fixed in the next administration.
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u/abughuul Feb 13 '26
Making America hate again. I thought they were leaving the planet and going to Mars. What’s taking so long? If they hate us so much, they can go. They won’t be missed
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u/kpeterso100 Feb 14 '26
We used to drive from the Bay Area to Disneyland once a year when I was growing up. We’d hit the LA basin and drive into that thick layer of yellow smog.
Fast forward 10-15 years: the EPA emission standards were a game changer and I was shocked to hit the LA basin and discover that LA is surrounded by mountains to the north and east. SHOCKED. I had never seen them before the EPA.
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u/Outrageous-Ask-8800 Feb 13 '26
Chicagoland looked like this for like 75% of the summer in 2025
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u/scrod Feb 13 '26
Which was due to Canadian wildfires, which were due to hotter, dryer air, which was due to greater heat retention retention from the doubled atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide which was caused by the unconstrained growth of automobiles and car-centric urban sprawl in the 60s and 70s. Same root cause.
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u/nuclearrx Feb 13 '26
I remember my first drive down to LA and seeing that picture. I believe it was the early eighties. I had never seen anything like it before. Never thought I might see it again. Very sad.
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u/templeofsyrinx1 Feb 13 '26 edited Feb 13 '26
I hear that. My head is in that space too at the moment. Don't be distracted by some of the other crap they try to flood everyone with. That's the point. the momentum is here though. what's happened in Minneapolis, as always , it starts with civil rights , and like the civil rights movement in the 60's, this has every chance of being as successful. Even that wasn't a given, but they fought hard as hell for it. And change happened, can happen again. People have a right to breath clean air, drink clean water, live in peace with our neighbors and know there can be a future on this planet. and it all ties in with civil rights. so we need to stand on the shoulders of giants.
*hug*. peace..
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u/IntelligentSorbet271 Feb 13 '26
Find a like minded group where you can make a difference. Even just making calls to voters or sending postcards out help a lot. I’m part of a blue dot group and we gather regularly to do things like this or even just helping a need in our community. It helps to focus on something positive to do.
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u/cubosh Feb 13 '26
yeah my next protest sign will be simply the phrase "gestures everywhere"
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u/InfiniteWaffles58364 Feb 13 '26
Everyone's next protest sign should be a functional shield. Time to step up
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u/Riaayo Feb 13 '26
It's oligarchs. We need to tax billionaires/hundred-millionaires out of existence (and hold them accountable for any criminality).
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u/F9-0021 Feb 13 '26
Don't forget the corporations themselves. They do more damage than the billionaires themselves do. We need devastating carbon taxes.
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u/ProfessionalCraft983 Feb 13 '26
Honestly, what makes me most upset aren't the oligarchs behind all of this. It's the dumbass voters who still support Trump and make excuses for him that makes me lose all hope. They are why the oligarchs are winning.
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u/Bocchi_theGlock Feb 13 '26
You need to learn about organizing. I've written about this more eloquently in the past if you want to read something actually edited, but for the 1400th time:
Learn organizing, We have the tools, we know what needs to be done.
Not protesting, not mobilizing, organizing people that are in the same situation as you, that you see day to day, that are exploited under a system that relies on your compliance and labor.
You need to come together, demand dignity by decision makers, and escalate slowly, strategically, towards collectively withdrawing, participation or compliance with the system.
Because it relies on us, we have leverage over it. We strike it shuts down. We do it together, they can't fire us all, evict us all, suspend us all. It is possible in workplaces, apartment complexes, schools, neighborhoods.
That means you don't only come together with people you already agree with. You Don't join up with people based off of ideology.
You join up with people based off of survival, shared struggle. Because you're in the same s***** situation, your relationships are inherently strengthened by that experience. This is infinitely different to relationships built off of ideological agreement.
People that you see day-to-day, because then organizing meetings don't need to be driven halfway across town for. Which makes them less accessible to Working class and vulnerable communities. For uniting off of ideology or an issue, demographics will trend towards more privileged, wealthier, people with free time, higher education, who can value action as meaningful in itself without having to win anything.
. Imagine someone trying to just survive, the next week. Trying to protect their family. Why would they ever take part if they don't see a material impact due to their participation? Why would they take part if everyone they see around them is happy to take selfies?
This is why no Kings is not achieving a specific result. It's about narrative effect, which indivisible leaders have admitted to. Coalition leaders like Ash Lee Woodard Henderson have stated the important work is tying our symbolic mobilization communities to those doing the good work. In some places that are more organized, this is happening with no King's networks, but in plenty of places, we are not centering and including people that are fighting for justice locally. I've seen it around the country, veteran activists make decisions based off of what they're comfortable with and used to, personality driven networks.
Joe Friedman wrote in the tyranny of structureless, which is in the organizing Harvard course, (regarding the feminist movement in the '70s, parts that experimented with no hierarchy or structure) that there is no such thing as lacking structure because there are always existing structures like friends, biases, privileges that inherently take over.
One of our biggest issues is we do not have explicit need for Democratic and inclusive decision-making as part of signing up to be a host for no Kings or 50/501. I looked over the recent toolkit, and it's nowhere. Our local leader that makes decisions unilaterally, not consulting. Anyone, went ahead and chose a time, got a permit, decided to fill up the host survey with a safety and media lead, all without telling any of the other coalition partners. This is all too common because people are gaining power off of these events due to affiliation.
We have to fix this. It cannot be the norm, making people feel better about themselves. In your comment itself, it's about how you feel, you need to become desperate to win. You need to become thirsty for learning how to build power, or how to help efforts that are doing so, how to distinguish between performative organizing symbolic protests and long-term capacity building.
I can recommend fundamentals for organizing podcast. The Harvard course: organizing people power and change, which is now a book by Marshall Ganz. The syllabus is online, the readings are widely available.
The goat is Jane McKelvey, No Shortcuts, 2018 edition. She was Labor relations professor at Harvard, chief negotiator for national nurses United, there are videos of her on YouTube. She also wrote a collective bargain and Rules to win By as she was dying from cancer.
Prisms of the people, 2021 book by Liz McKenna, Harvey Han, Michelle oyakawa. One of the first more academic and research, qualitative and quantitative review of successful community organizing. Organizing. They pointed out that you need to build flexible, independent sources of power. That mobilization can be helpful only when it is able to be wielded repeatedly, as a threat towards specific decision makers.
People seeing atrocities in videos should not be required for us to get people out to the streets. That is not real Long-term power. Decision makers can wait it out. And they have. As well, we can build capacity through these mobilizations by offering roles to rising activists. Giving experience and building relationships in the meanwhile.
Everyone makes assumptions that you need to dedicate your life, so and so many hours of time, be an expert, all these b******* reasons for why they can't be the one to lead a change. It's going to kill us. We could have saved the world a decade ago if we could get over this. I have heard so many hardcore leftists and activists insist they could never organize their workplace because of made up reasons. Oh you want me to get fired, you trying to make me lose my home? I can't just walk off the job.
No labor organizer would ever suggest that. You build the power first. That's the most extreme example of action, but in that situation, after asking nicely and escalating, the whole point is that you walk out together because then the system shuts down. When the system shuts down and a business is hemorrhaging profits, the solution is not to fire all the workers and lose even more. The rational choice is to negotiate.
This is what makes strikes and true organizing unique from standard protest and political efforts that boil down to asking nicely, waiting for the right balance of power in the relevant legislature.
For some reason many people on Reddit are desperate to down Vote any insinuation that they have power, right now, and that they do not need to wait for some uprising or shit hits the fan moment. We have a common saying in organizing trainings, that you cannot give people power, you cannot empower them, you can only show them the power that they always had but had been conditioned into not using.
Which no Kings networks are operating with these things in mind? They're dominated by non-profits that are interested in fundraising cycles and headlines more than anything. They don't need to win to keep their jobs. They rock the boat too much, they lose their jobs.
Calling on the White House does not work. We need to focus on local elected officials that are flying under the radar, that are infinitely more vulnerable. I can't tell if it's a legal non-profit restriction where suggesting such crosses illegal boundaries into 501c4 non-profit territory when they're all 501c3 - but if it's the thing keeping us from winning, we need to Find a way around it.
We can recruit at these rallies using the barnstorm model. Instead of recruiting via email, text, social media post, hoping someone goes out of the way, we can use the excitement of a rally to ask the crowd at peak energy who can make this high-level commitment. Commitment. Having people come to the front, applauded by the crowd. Getting a social reward that others want, reaffirming the work, making the ask again to get any stragglers.
And here's the magic; you make increasingly lower level asks because it places greater and greater pressure on people to commit to something before time runs out, otherwise they will not get to be clapped for - which many people are desperate for.
We can use it to recruit for Rapid response. We can ask who is ready to organize the workplace (with the aid of expert labor organizers), their apartment complex into a tenant Union, their school into a walkout. We do this. We win. I don't know what's going through the non-profit minds to keep them from ever discussing this. They know what the barnstorm is, we've been perfecting this since 2016. It's an evolution of the house party model. It's written about in rules for revolutionaries by Becky Bond and Zack Exley about the Bernie 2016 campaign.
For some God forsaken reason, the Democratic party does the exact opposite, they do not recruit for volunteers at their rallies. They actually refuse to ever contact local field organizers who are desperately trying to get out the vote, because the people hosting the rallies are on the event team and only need headlines and turnouts. It's such a waste.
And they just decided to bury the postmortem report on 2024 campaign, all the lessons will not ever be discussed publicly.
It would have been enough in 2024. It's been an issue since 2012 at least, around the country in various state parties. Obama organizers told me how they had to recruit for rallies when people came up to pick up tickets from the office. If I remember correctly, the Obama campaign even skipped the coordinated campaign and built their own thing.
We have all the tools we need. It's egos and concern for fundraising cycles, future careers, non-profit structure, that weigh us down.
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u/whttigress72 Feb 13 '26
Who in their right mind believes we should pollute air, water, or land? It’s only our life source.
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u/Ok_Vulva Feb 13 '26 edited Feb 20 '26
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u/whttigress72 Feb 13 '26
Okay you got me👍. What’s funny is, their money is no match for Mother Nature😁.
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u/FormerSir9366 Feb 13 '26
The walls are closing in on T with the epstein files; he is in survival mode now which is why we're seeing the slash and burn tactics. He'll try to take the whole world down with him.
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The 🍊💩is demented. That’s not an insult, it’s a fact. And I’m only mentioning it because, one, he doesn’t give a shit about the environment as he knows he’ll be dead any minute now, and, two, he doesn’t even know what he’s doing anymore. He’s a walking zombie at this point.
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u/PokiP Feb 13 '26
It's not JUST Trump though. I happened to catch part of the news conference announcing this bullshit, and after Felon 47 spoke, some other guy was expounding about how 'regulations have strangled businesses' and this change 'will give consumers so much more choice, and bring prices down, especially for cars!'
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Oh, absolutely. What I meant to say was that trump is their useful idiot , they’re using him to pass legislation that benefits corporations and not people. And, as I said, he doesn’t give a damn.
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u/TheDweadPiwatWobbas Feb 13 '26
It's not their only life source. They can fly in purified water from halfway across the world. They can fly themselves to go eat anywhere they like. They know they'll be dead before any major consequences start to affect them. And in the meantime, they'll make way more money if there aren't any environmental regulations to slow them down.
That's it. That's genuinely how they think.
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u/The_side_dude Feb 13 '26
It's not that they think we should, it's that they think if we don't spend the time and money on doing it the clean way, we can generate a bunch more revenue for our shareholders
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u/Cold-Cell2820 Feb 13 '26
Can we all join a class action to sue the EPA? The science and the law are both settled.
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u/templeofsyrinx1 Feb 13 '26
Everything is in motion now. likely but that is not an easy one . thank you. It's really up to the people right now to make sure this gets turned around.
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u/herowind124 Feb 13 '26
Lots.
There's the traditional calling/mailing of representatives, showing up to said representatives public meetings, voting in local and national elections, protesting, speaking out, etc. Methods such as these are known as 'indirect action.'
As for 'direct action?' Reddit/the authorities don't like it when one advocates for specific methods of direct action; as a lot of direct action is illegal. So, I leave it up to you to look into potential methods of direct action against the climate crisis. With that said, almost every successful labor movement, equality movement, boycott has been supported by and/or headed up by direct action activists. If something is important enough to a someone, a more direct approach may be worth the risks.
This is not to say that one type of action is ineffective as opposed to the other. Rather, both indirect and direct action are made more effective when both are done simultaneously. Historically speaking, getting your friends and neighbors to join a boycott will help, but burning the stock of the product you're boycotting will make your boycott all the more effective.
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u/FormerSir9366 Feb 13 '26
Vote in November.
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u/CeruleanEidolon Feb 13 '26
And call your representatives. Even the douchebag bootlicker ones that signed their dicks away to the Trump machine to get elected. Don't let them forget who they work for and that we are fuckig angry.
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u/kdwhirl Feb 13 '26
They need worker bees, especially since they’re deporting as many immigrants as they can. And they’re striving to reduce restrictions on underage workers, safety protections, and standards of education (because critical thinking skills do not make for good worker bees).
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u/Rebel_hooligan Feb 13 '26
…now you’re getting the picture. The point is a small group of fascists elites don’t much like the ever protesting global masses.
Imagine the last century and triple it
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u/conflictmuffin Feb 13 '26
They don't only need worker bees...its clear they also need a fresh supply of kids to touch & groom. Sickos.
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u/CyberFireball25 Feb 13 '26
They want poor people to suffer and die.
Everything they do makes perfect sense when starting from that realization
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u/OrigamiMarie Feb 13 '26
I still have basically leftist folks in my life who sometimes say they can't understand the reasoning behind x, y, or z action by Trump & Co. How it just doesn't make any sense. And I try to tell them that makes perfect sense if you understand that the goal, the thing those people desire most, is power over other people. They want other people to suffer. That's the logic.
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u/cafe-bustelo- Feb 13 '26
i mean, i honestly still don’t get it. i know the point is constantly growing profit/power, but like how are you going to continue to exploit people and the planet if you just destroy it all. short term gains make no sense
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u/Zen_CanisLupus Feb 13 '26
They figure they will escape the destruction somehow, whether they live in their bunkers breathing purified air and water and eating healthy food for however long it takes for the air to clear or whether they simply fly to Mars in order to destroy it, too.
You don’t get it because you are a human being with a social, environmental conscience. The people we are discussing are sociopaths and in some cases psychopaths.
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u/AncientCrust Feb 13 '26
They really enjoy their cruelty. There's a little cruelty in everything they do. Sometimes a lot.
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u/deadly_mythology Feb 13 '26
Read about Curtis Yarvin. He's cookoo but powerful people listen to his nonsense. Billionaires want to create a type of modern feudalism with a permanent underclass of desperate people to serve them. Like more than exists now. The people in power are delusional psychopaths. It's wild!!
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u/MiniaturePhilosopher Feb 13 '26
I’m starting to think they want more babies not just to bolster the numbers of a desperate underclass but because they expect a large percentage of the world’s population to die from climate change related reasons. Large swatches of populated areas are becoming uninhabitable, and the population living in those places cant afford to flee.
It’s vibing like peasant and pioneer families who have 15 kids in the hopes that a couple survive to adulthood.
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u/Maremdeo Feb 13 '26
If babies aren't born today, who will they fuck in 10 years? Gotta keep the meat machine moving!
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u/NoAnt6694 Feb 13 '26
I thought they wanted a1 rob0s for that.
Robots don't experience pain the way humans and animals do. Frankly, I'm not sure their predilections are really about attraction so much as they are about sadism and the desire to flaunt their status in the worst possible way just because they can.
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u/FlamingDragonfruit Feb 13 '26
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they were looking at The Matrix as their end goal.
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u/Rainbow_chan Feb 13 '26
Actually yea, Curtis Yarvin wants to do something similar
putting them in solitary confinement, hooked up to a virtual-reality interface. Whatever the exact solution, he has written, it is crucial to find “a humane alternative to genocide,” an outcome that “achieves the same result as mass murder (the removal of undesirable elements from society) but without any of the moral stigma.”
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u/tiny_purple_Alfador Feb 13 '26
Because they're actually that divorced from reality. That's what every battle in the culture war, from abortion to trans rights to gamergate has boiled down to, it's nonsense gobbedygook that doesn't hold up the second you think about it for more than five seconds. They come up with some half cocked notion of how they *want* reality to work, we do some science on it, and say it doesn't work that way but here are some things that we could do instead. Then they put their fingers in their ears and go LALALALALALA while everyone tries to scream explanations at them, and complain when SURPRISE it doesn't work the way they thought it should, and actually does the opposite of what they think. Every policy position on the right is like this. It's just stupid. That's all you're missing.
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u/PatchyWhiskers Feb 13 '26
White babies. This is about the “great replacement” antisemitic theory.
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u/Abominatrix Feb 13 '26
There’s no cohesive plan that these guys are all following. They don’t care about squaring these ideas up and, ultimately, they want that dollar first. They figure they can make people have babies if it comes to it.
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u/OkRecommendation2774 Feb 13 '26
The "cohesive plan" is being directed by the Heritage Foundation. Removing EPA protections is part of Project 2025.
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u/lokey_convo Feb 13 '26
The cohesive plan is make it easier for large corporations to profit at everyone else expense.
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u/707-5150 Feb 13 '26
It’s almost like they don’t care how many babies people have as long as they keep popping them out. The more the merrier for the consumption line of the buffet. Because they eat children.
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u/StinzorgaKingOfBees Feb 13 '26
The problem is that you're using logic. Republican voters vote on feelings, not logic, and the wealthy make decisions on greed, not logic.
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u/hamdelivery Feb 13 '26
It doesn’t make sense because they’re simply greedy idiots who don’t think or care beyond the short term
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u/coconutpiecrust Feb 13 '26
It makes perfect sense if pursuit of freedoms and happiness is not in the cards for the babies.
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u/DontRunReds Feb 13 '26
The right is not a rising tide lifts all boats party.
They want a class of people that live in sacrifice zones to supply capitalism with shareholder value. That part I get.
What I will probably find agreement with you in not getting, is their head in the sand attitude towards climate change. Like maybe Musk and Bezos, with their stupid space shit, can go live on Mars or whatever alone in the sky. But as far as the rest of us including their descendants, the sacrifice zone might expand to include the whole of earth if climate change isn't addressed.
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u/deadly_mythology Feb 13 '26
My hope is there is a major backlash to all this. I think a lot of moderates and liberals are having their eyes opened to the injustice of our political system that's been going on longer than the trump administration.
All the executive orders can be quickly reversed with a new president. We'll be cleaning up the fallout for a generation. I'm holding out hope that enough Americans will be disgusted with this administration that we will clean up more than what trump did.
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u/Shaddaaaaaapp Feb 13 '26
This has been the top item on the BBC for over 12 hours.
"In fact, a challenge in court on the reversal of the endangerment finding may well be what the Trump administration is now looking for.
Many legal experts believe that they want the proposal to be tested in the Supreme Court before Trump's term ends, believing that if they win, the endangerment finding will be consigned to history.
"This is really different as the EPA is exiting the space entirely and wants to do it on a permanent basis," said Meghan Greenfield.
"If they were to win that issue as they framed it before the Supreme Court, a new presidential administration could not change that position, in the absence of new legislation."
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u/JAM_Library Feb 13 '26
This move by Trump’s EPA is in direct opposition to Montana’s state constitution that requires the maintenance of a clean and healthful environment for all Montana citizens. It reads as: “The state and each person shall maintain and improve a clean and healthful environment in Montana for present and future generations. (2) The legislature shall provide for the administration and enforcement of this duty. (3) The legislature shall provide adequate remedies for the protection of the environmental life support system from degradation and provide adequate remedies to prevent unreasonable depletion and degradation of natural resources.”
It seems to me that this places Montana’s Republican legislature in a position where they must respond to this threat against our global ecosystem that will certainly lead to degradation of Montana’snatural resources- like breathable air, fresh water, and our oceans. All things are connected.
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u/templeofsyrinx1 Feb 13 '26
Thank you☺️, it feels so good to read that and hear from Montana! It fills the well up of perseverance that's going to be required. peace.
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u/InpenXb1 Feb 13 '26
I posted this comment in r/news but I'm pasting it here too:
We are outpacing the Great Dying (Permian Triassic extinction event) by around 50-100x the rate of global heat.
Over the course of 50,000 years, the earth gained heat at a rate of 0.02 degrees Celsius per century for a total of 10 degrees of average global heat gain over that 50,000 years. We have seen global average temps rise 10% of that in 150 years. 1 deg per century.
75% of all vertebrates died during the Great Dying. It’s the greatest extinction event in the history of the planet. Entire ecological systems collapsed from that rate of heating. I’m not pointing to any models for the future, nor looking at tipping points. Purely looking at the history of the earth, for all those “it’s been hotter before folks”. It sure has. It’s never ever gotten this hot this fast.
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u/templeofsyrinx1 Feb 13 '26 edited Feb 13 '26
I don't know what else to say guys. Please take these words and ideas and use them however you see fit.
thanks..peace. my heart is hurting tonight for the planet..
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u/JJFrob Feb 13 '26
Well with the possible coming economic collapse given the abysmal jobs numbers they're trying to cover up, combined with other countries at least not stunting green energy, and in many cases still investing in it, there are certainly forces pushing in the opposite direction of this rule change. Not that economic collapse is good, but it certainly would leave a lot of pollution sources idle. Again, not good news, but something to consider.
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u/MesugakiFujiwara Feb 14 '26
The planet will be fine, especially without us. It is our society that will fail, the planet has withstood worse.
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u/Grateful_BF Feb 13 '26
Asking all lawyers, constitutionalist, people in the know… Please find the argument that this can’t happen. Can this be repealed, can one single person do this?
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u/Kimmalah Feb 13 '26
No, he can't unilaterally repeal laws. Trump lives in lala land where he thinks executive orders are some kind of king's decree. Legislation passed by Congress still stands.
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u/Vospader998 New York Feb 13 '26
Ya, but laws are only as good as someone is willing to enforce them.
EOs shouldn't be law, but if they're being enforced, or causing other laws to not be enforced, then EOs are effectivly law.
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u/takebackthep0wer Feb 13 '26
Sierra Club doesn’t fuck around. I’ll bet they are on it. But I will still be protesting and not consuming where possible. ✊
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u/aminor321 Feb 13 '26
That orange asshole's gonna kill the planet trying to distract folks from the Trumpstein files.
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u/Junior-Profession726 Feb 13 '26
We grew up and the smog was so bad our lungs hurt seriously !! And then they started smog days where we had to stay inside and couldn’t play
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u/bipedal_meat_puppet Feb 13 '26
Join an organization and protest. We’ve been out there for a year in all types of weather, and we’re growing.
Look for local groups, either Indivisible, or your local 50501 chapter.
Ever see people on a bridge overpass? Stop and ask them how to help.
Check out the Visibility Brigade.
Protesting works. We’re out there to make sure people know they’re not alone. Politicians see the movement growing, and are starting to push back. Voters are aware that there are millions of us against the regime.
Find a group, get some poster board, and be on the right side of history.
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u/AdAdept193 Feb 13 '26
I’m scared they just want to extract every possible resource from the earth, then go somewhere else and leave our magnificent planet to burn.
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u/EEVEELUVR Feb 13 '26
Where could they possibly go? And logistically, how could they build a ship capable of getting them there without a single person noticing it or leaking it?
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u/63chev Feb 13 '26
Trump is the biggest criminal in human history. This is ecocide. Trump Must Go Now.
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u/Shaddaaaaaapp Feb 13 '26
I know you guys in the states are well into the Epstein files, as we are in the UK, but this has global ramifications and harm going well beyond a conspiracy involving thousands of people.
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u/DontRunReds Feb 13 '26
I can walk and chew gum at the same time.
And, and, and.
The last few years have been an interesting amount of political multitasking for me from the local to federal level.
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u/pioniere Feb 13 '26
Republicans should all go to jail. There is science behind all of this, and they willfully ignore it. The only results from their ignorance will be increased deaths, increased property damage, and increased economic damage.
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u/Ready-Ad6113 Feb 13 '26
Executive orders are not laws and the clean air & water acts are still standing laws passed by Congress. Trump wants to circumvent Congress by using their own agencies to just ignore their regulatory duties. All this can be undone after midterms (or earlier) if a lawsuit is made.
Also, nature DGAF about money, politics, borders, or religion. There will be climate change, hurricanes, wildfires etc and Trump and his cronies are at the mercy of the planet like everyone else.
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u/Joshuak47 Feb 13 '26
A narcissist sees everyone as a rival. He may be trying to end things for everyone before his short life ends.
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u/Commandmanda Feb 13 '26
I recently read an article (still trying to find it) that suggested, no - actually proved that statistically, we will continue efforts toward energy efficiency despite the EPA's revocation.
I had to think about that for a moment. Why? The article stated that so many people are aware of climate change, and it's so cemented in our mindset that efforts will continue regardless.
What's driving it? Fear of ever-rising fuel and electricity costs. Fear of not having the A/C on when temperatures are too scorching outside. Fear of not having heat when the AMOC subsides. Fear of not having transportation. Fear of the loss of mass-manufacturing. Fear of not having agricultural machinery.
Enough of us know what's coming. We'll keep working on it, no matter what.
This administration is not forever. They know it. Reverberations within Washington are reaching everyone. Tuesday, November 3rd, 2026. Be ready.
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u/wabashcanonball Feb 13 '26
Discover the surprising benefits of toxic sludge! Stop grumbling about the current administration—your life is truly extraordinary when your food glows.
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u/HumanSlaveToCats Feb 13 '26
The fact that people think ‘deregulation’ helps grow small businesses is INSANE. It just kills more people.
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u/V_Acton Feb 13 '26 edited Feb 13 '26
I'm so exhausted by all of this. The only energy I have in me is hope that these people die soon so we can attempt to fix this shit. Fuck I'm so tired.
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u/ineedicedcoffeee Washington Feb 13 '26
I’m so sad to think about the world my kids are gonna grow up in. Sorrow is what I’ve felt since November 6 2024
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u/musicnerdfighter Feb 13 '26
I highly recommend the newsletter Fix The News. It sends weekly stories of real progress in the world, in areas like health care, science, climate, and environment. There's actually been some pretty good climate news in the world lately. It covers global stories, which is a good reminder that the US is not the world.
This is bad news, don't get me wrong. But there are real people doing the work every day, and we don't see that in the headlines.
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u/Enigm4 Feb 13 '26
It appears that he wants to kill billions and make the difference between the ones that have and ones that have not even bigger. We must not let him or his ilk have their way.
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u/ClimateWren2 Feb 13 '26
Yes...American leadership has now fallen. A symbolic nail in a policy coffin for vacant fools.
But...physics, is who we all answer to now, and we are already over +1.5C. Now we head to +3-4C warming.
Texas insulated their grid because outages are expensive and the polar vortex DOES reach there now. Now arguing...they just did it. Flood waters... don't care. Fires... don't care. Storms.... don't care. Drought... doesn't care. But people will...and they will move and act.
Change moves closer to the people again. The work goes on. Turn off your fossils. Prepare your town for warnings. Put in the upgrades and resiliency. We get the necessary work done.
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u/GirlNumber20 Feb 13 '26
Hahaha, it's been 60+ degrees in February here in Utah, home of The Greatest Snow On Earth. I live at 5,300 feet, in the foothills of Mount Timpanogos, and I haven't shoveled snow in two years. You can say climate change isn't happening all you want, but you can't win the war with reality no matter how stridently you say it.
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u/WoopsIAteIt Feb 13 '26
Out of everything he’s done, this worries me the most. This isn’t a direct attack on us, it’s a direct attack on our children, grandchildren, our entire planet.
We need a comprehensive list of every company that changes their emissions policies to take advantage of this. Their needs to be sustained boycotts of every company that takes this opportunity to hurt us for short term gains. Only if consumer sentiment is overwhelmingly on the side of the planet will these new regulations be defeated
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If only we had the group courage to do something meaningful to stop all of this.
"--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
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u/BashfulBuckboy Feb 13 '26
There will be times when the struggle seems impossible. I know this already. Alone. Unsure. Dwarfed by the scale of the enemy. Remember this. Freedom is a pure idea. It occurs spontaneously and without instruction. Random acts of insurrection are occurring constantly throughout the galaxy. There are whole armies, battalions, that have no idea they've already enlisted in the cause. Remember that. And then remember this. The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyrant requires constant effort. It breaks. It leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear. Remember that. And then know this. The day will come when all these skirmishes and battles, these moments of defiance will have flooded the banks of the Empire's authority and then there will be one too many. One single thing will break the siege. Remember this...try.
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u/Venttea Feb 13 '26
I saw someone posting about LA in here (with a picture of how LA’s air quality used to be). I’m not from LA, though I am from SoCal (San Diego).
We weren’t quite as bad as LA, but San Diego was pretty bad in the 1900s too, I think especially around the mid? I don’t know for sure the specific timeframe, someone can throw in some sources with the specifics.
The reason why I mention this is because my great grandma. I grew up knowing my great grandpa, but I never had the change to ever meet my great grandma. She died young, I think my mom was a baby when she died. It was a painful topic for my grandma (still is), and for the longest time all I knew was that she died in her early 40s.
One day, I was making cannolis with my grandma. My family is Sicilian, and we have a very old family cookbook. It’s full of recipes from various generations, even as far back as to when my family + extended family was in Sicily. Some pages are visibly worn, but it’s full of love that’s older than me, and will outlive me. We were making the filling from the book, and I asked my grandma why we never made the shells. We always bought the shells from an Italian owned business, or restaurant (some will sell you the shells). She told me that the last time she made the shells was back when her mom was sick. My grandma and her grandma would make her cannolis, while her mom was in the hospital. Like they knew she was going to die, but it was to give her comfort. And since then, she couldn’t do it anymore, it was too hard to make the shells.
Then she opened up to me a bit more.
My great grandma was in her early 40s when she died of emphysema. With no history of smoking, with no history of being around smokers, my grandma told me her doctor believed the cause was from poor air quality. My grandma always said her mom was relatively healthy prior, before she was showing signs of emphysema.
So when I see stuff like this, this is what I think about. These sorts of things cause lives to shorten, sometimes severely so. The deaths are never peaceful or easy for the person dying. My great grandma was in so much pain, up until she died. My grandma, in her 80s, still lives with the pain of losing her mom to this. She still struggles talking about it, but it was that one day she felt like she could talk a bit more about it.
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u/Venttea Feb 13 '26
I already commented on this thread about something else, but I wanna recommend the movie Erin Brockovich (2000). It’s about PG&E groundwater contamination in Hinkley California, back in the 1900s, and her initiating a legal case against PG&E.
If you want to learn more about the ground water contamination in Hinkley, here.
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u/flyingGameFridge Feb 13 '26
You guys really need to make some serious amendments to the POTUS powers.
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u/SCOLSON Feb 13 '26
They aren't even truly POTUS powers though, the leading party is completely bought and paid for so there is no resistance from an entire branch of power
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u/afCeG6HVB0IJ Feb 13 '26
So the administration that denies climate change but also wants to invade Greenland and Canada for all the resources that will melt out due to climate change...?
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u/anndrago Feb 13 '26
I just finished reading On Tyranny by historian Timothy Snyder. I had a vague conceptual understanding of this administration following historical playbooks, but holy fuck, everyone needs to read that book.
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u/hahasnake Feb 14 '26
Americans, please don't lose hope.
Get activated: support your communities, find ways that can undermine the trump administration if you work in any industry that feeds or supplies them, if you don't work in one, talk with people about unions and striking (shit that can make things really economically painful for these fuckers in charge).
This is bad and getting worse, but there are more of you than there are of them. Fascism can only destroy, but you can build.
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u/bregrace Feb 13 '26
He rolled back at least a decade of chemical ban progress last term with his hands basically tied behind his back by a more moderate government. Now all bets are off.
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u/Darryl_444 Feb 13 '26
16 Hiroshimas per second over the last 50 years wasn't enough for the Cult of Malignant Trumpists.
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u/HeckleJekyllHyde Feb 13 '26
Imagine threatening Canada to turn off their wildfire smoke and then set your yard on fire.
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u/Upbeat_Page8249 Feb 13 '26
I remember Chicago looking like this in the 60's & early 70's. You had to drive with your windows up in the hot, stuffy summer. I can't believe this happening! Impeachment and arrest now!!!
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u/Necessary-Start4151 Feb 13 '26
My heart is broken too over humanity’s inability to face this crisis and make change. At our current pace of emissions we will see the worst of the climate change impacts sooner then we realize. And studies are showing mass mortality worldwide and resulting chaos. Not a good time to have children….
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u/KratosLegacy Feb 13 '26
I'm at the point that whoever we vote for and we need to charge them all with treason. They are enemies of the people. And we need accountability. Lying and probably false claims when dealing with the state of the country or wielded by those with authority and influence should also be treated as treason. That goes for wealthy CEOs too. Scam Altman, Slopya Nadella, Jeff Bozos, etc
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u/KCollins04 Feb 13 '26
I dont understand the point of this! What’s the plan when it all dies? Do they really think this doesn’t affect them?? I just don’t understand at all.
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u/Odd-Information-1219 Feb 13 '26
Instant gratification is their goal. Make as much money in the next three years as humanly possible before our next president and administration turn off the tap.
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u/2quickdraw Feb 13 '26
Psychologically balanced and sane people can't understand psychopathy and malignant narcissism, which is what is the foundation under all of this. The extremely rich are all psychopaths.
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u/airJordan45 Feb 13 '26
One of the scariest things of a second tRump term was that any chance we had of slowing or preventing the climate clock would be destroyed. Refocusing on fossil fuels, lifting environmental protections, selling off national parks, Trump and his admins have shown they'll sell off our planet if they can line their pockets just a little bit more.
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u/Tro11man Feb 13 '26
They are just trying to hasten the collapse of the environment what the rich have been preparing for
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u/Mozzy2022 Feb 14 '26
How do you repeal FACTS? He says it’s no longer a fact? What a jerk
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u/ChiliDogYumZappupe Feb 13 '26
Cold comfort... he can't actually change facts. He can only change the USA's governmental reaction to facts.
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u/Odd-Coconut-7113 Feb 13 '26
Genuinely what can we do? I hate this timeline. I call my reps and they always respond the same way like a robot. Is voting really the most meaningful thing? (Which I of course plan to do)
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u/DontRunReds Feb 13 '26
No one can do everything, but everyone can do something.
You pick a few key issues and you become knowledgeable on those. There are 2-3 issues that I really work on hard at the local and state level. And I collaborate with others on all of those.
And you spend your energies on organizations doing the right thing.
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u/templeofsyrinx1 Feb 13 '26
I imagine the shitstorm of lawsuits coming is going to be immense. Call em up, let them know he just cut the legs out from under the EPA which affects my state. can't hurt.
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u/CSpringDCow Feb 13 '26
The Monsters that control the administration are looking to harm everyone, it’s not good.
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u/StinzorgaKingOfBees Feb 13 '26
https://youtu.be/uVzLzClY2E8?si=dXUbK_7IpzEU71AZ
We need insane Ted Turner.
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u/Fit_Author3757 Feb 13 '26
It’s like when private equity buys a company and strips it down to nothing while pulling all the cash out of it
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u/Yotta_yellin Feb 13 '26
I couldn’t believe what I read about the EPA reversal and couldn’t agree with you more! There are so many distractions and assaults on our democracy that it’s easy to become numb and tune out. This is exactly what their strategy is aiming to achieve. By normalizing immorality and creating public complacency, this regime can implement increasingly authoritarian mandates. We’re now at the point that a reversal like this isn’t even making it past a news day. I, like many others, am praying this November will put a stop to the corruption but I honestly think the fix is already implemented. How our country reacts to overtly rigged elections will determine what this nation will become.
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u/Kkimp1955 Feb 13 '26
Luckily, they have enough yachts that they can string them all together and make a mansion on the ocean, so what do they care about global warming? Bring on the water we got the boats.
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u/LookaLookaKooLaLey Feb 13 '26
honestly this is one of those things that will eventually engender a massive social change and cultural reminder that the "environment" is not some nebulous other place but literally every cubic meter of our day-to-day living space
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u/BicycleOfLife Feb 13 '26
If a president has the authority to do this then the system was always broken, just no one took advantage of it until now.
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u/Revenga8 Feb 14 '26
Wealthy don't care because they can just buy the clean air for themselves
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