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News Article US Justice Department sues UCLA alleging antisemitic educational environment

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-justice-department-sues-ucla-alleging-antisemitic-educational-environment-2026-05-26/
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u/20000RadsUnderTheSea 1d ago

I believe that Jewish self-determination is not intrinsically linked to the state of Israel and its specific actions over the last few decades. Israel has done a poor job of preventing the worst actions of their settlers, committed numerous crimes against prisoners, funded Hamas, and otherwise done their best to degrade the conditions for peace in the region.

Conflating the actions of Israel with any specific ethnic group would be bigoted. The jewish community is more than just Israel and its actions. Their association is and always has been anti-semitic, and is often used as a thought-terminating cliche to shut down any legitimate critique of the Israeli government. And by linking the two, as the world's view on Israel becomes more negative, continuing to insist that Israel acts on behalf of all jews will only serve to increase anti-semitism.

And yeah, those things all sound horrible. Seems like the case should be a slam dunk then, and not just a settlement claiming no wrongdoing like the last on (interesting it would be only a settlement if the claims of the judge were as strong as you claim). Somehow, I'm not holding my breath on the accuracy of any claims affiliated with the cases put forth by this DOJ.

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u/justafutz 1d ago

I believe that Jewish self-determination is not intrinsically linked to the state of Israel and its specific actions over the last few decades.

Stop conflating actions with the existence of Israel. This is about one, not the other.

Israel has done a poor job of preventing the worst actions of their settlers, committed numerous crimes against prisoners, funded Hamas, and otherwise done their best to degrade the conditions for peace in the region.

I'm going to ignore your conspiracy theories and focus on the point. The point is not this. I explained that above. The point is that these Jewish students were excluded for central tenets of their faith, and were targeted by the encampment if they were wearing anything identifying them as Jewish, like a Star of David or a yarmulke. That is antisemitism.

Conflating the actions of Israel with any specific ethnic group would be bigoted

You appear to be trying to argue that Jews are antisemitic by ignoring what I said. I said:

Blaming Jews and the Jewish state for antisemitism is not only irrelevant, it shows a serious problem. No one here conflated Israel's actions with antisemitism. What they did is point out that Jews were excluded from campus because they are Jewish and believe in central tenets of the Jewish faith, and wore symbols that mark them as observant and proud Jews.

You seem to be missing that. Try reading it again.

Seems like the case should be a slam dunk then, and not just a settlement claiming no wrongdoing like the last on (interesting it would be only a settlement if the claims of the judge were as strong as you claim).

Uh, I think you misunderstood the settlement. The settlement was saying UCLA doesn't admit that UCLA did something wrong, because it disputed that it was responsible for the protestors.

UCLA did not deny that there was antisemitism on campus, and that the encampment excluded Jews. In fact, the judge noted that in his opinion directly, saying:

In the year 2024, in the United States of America, in the State of California, in the City of Los Angeles, Jewish students were excluded from portions of the UCLA campus because they refused to denounce their faith. This fact is so unimaginable and so abhorrent to our constitutional guarantee of religious freedom that it bears repeating, Jewish students were excluded from portions of the UCLA campus because they refused to denounce their faith. UCLA does not dispute this. Instead, UCLA claims that it has no responsibility to protect the religious freedom of its Jewish students because the exclusion was engineered by third-party protesters. But under constitutional principles, UCLA may not allow services to some students when UCLA knows that other students are excluded on religious grounds, regardless of who engineered the exclusion.

UCLA doesn't dispute that there was a Jew-free zone on campus. They only disputed that they were responsible.

Please try not to misstate that as well.

Somehow, I'm not holding my breath on the accuracy of any claims affiliated with the cases put forth by this DOJ.

Then feel free to read the report of the UCLA Antisemitism Task Force.