r/exAdventist May 02 '26

SDA Culture I wrote a short story about Adventist food culture for the other (never-SDA) members of my writers group. They loved it!

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I just wanted to share this piece with people who have lived in this culture. I changed all of the names, but the events did happen.

C-O-F-F-E-E

“Okay, song time.” The man said as he adjusted the strap of his 12 string guitar. “Who has a song request?” He flipped his hair over his shoulder. I’d never seen a man with long hair at church before.

Hands shot up around the room. 

“Tabitha, what song do you want to sing?” 

The girl beside me beamed with excitement. “The coffee song!”

“Okay.” And the man began to strum.

“C-O-F-F-E-E, coffee is not for me.” We sang fervently. “It’s the drink that people wake up with, and it makes them nervous is no myth…” It was a fact. Coffee wasn’t for me. It’s not for any Adventist – well, any good Adventist. The church’s prophet, Ellen White, wrote about how caffeine is bad for you, so Adventists – true Adventists – don’t drink it.

***

I unwrapped the warm sandwich from its package and took a bite. Wow! This was the best veggie burger I’d ever tasted from Burger King! Mom usually ordered us French toast sticks when we got to come here, but if they weren’t serving breakfast, she’d usually get us all veggie burgers — lettuce, onion, tomato, and pickles drenched in ketchup and mayo — everything but the burger patty. 

It was summer and we’d just spent a couple hours at the store. All of us kids were worn out — especially the three of us still under 10. This rare trip to Burger King was a ‘thank you for being so good and I’m sorry’ meal from our mom. 

This burger tasted different, though; it tasted better than usual. I opened it up to discover its secrets, and there laying on top of all the condiment-soaked vegetables lay two dark pink strips. Stripples? No not from Burger King. These must be bacon — the pork version of my beloved Stripples (a kind of veggie bacon). 

“Mom? I think mine has meat on it.” My mom braked suddenly in the drive thru lane and inspected my burger’s contents. “Bacon! I’ll have to go back in and get you a new burger.” She pulled into a space and parked the car.

Taking my burger, her wallet, and the receipt, she got out and walked inside the restaurant. I sat in silence. Tears welled up in my eyes as the realization set in — I just ate meat! And the worst kind of meat, too — unclean meat! I felt sick. What did I just do? What did this mean for my eternal salvation? Eating meat is bad; eating unclean meat is basically a sin. But what if I didn’t know the burger had pork on it? Fighting back tears and dread, I turned to Sarah. “Did I sin?”

“No,” my older sister Sarah reassured me, “it wasn’t your fault. You didn’t know there was bacon on it and when you thought there might be, you stopped eating it right away. You’re okay. Those rules are just to protect our health. God wants us to be healthy, but if you accidentally eat something unclean, it’s okay. Next time, just check and make sure it’s healthy before you eat it.” 

***

A stick of margarine, 5 eggs, and an onion cut into large chunks. I wiped a tear from my eye as I placed the blender onto its base and pressed the puree button. Why is it that some of the most delicious foods look so disgusting?

Once the egg and margarine mixture had been blended to smoothie consistency, I poured the gray sludge into a mixing bowl and added the two ingredients for which this dish got its two names: cottage cheese and special k. Stirring the ingredients together only made the dish look more unappealing — to anyone with eyes, that is.

Finally, I poured the gray-brown mixture into a casserole pan and set the oven to start baking it at noon. Once we all got back from church, the house would be filled with the savory-sweet scent of cottage cheese loaf (or special k loaf).

The thought of the hot, golden-brown loaf kept me in high spirits as I climbed over the passenger seat of the mini van my older sister and brother took turns driving and into the back seat. The cloth ceiling which had been hanging down for months if not years brushed over my hairsprayed locks. I had a growth spurt several months ago and now, I couldn’t get in the van without my hair catching on the ceiling fabric. Though my shoes pinched my toes and my half-up hairdo pulled at my scalp, I was excited to go to church. Getting to go home to a mouth-watering Sabbath lunch made the pain of church entirely worthwhile.

***

I grabbed the can opener out of the kitchen drawer, my mouth watering in anticipation. Wiping the dust particles off the top of the can, my finger caught on the edge of the price sticker before continuing on. $6.06. It was a high price to pay, especially when I was only being paid $9.00 an hour at my part-time job working in an Adventist warehouse, but this delicacy was worth it. I clicked the can opener into place and turned the crank. The salty aroma of the brine inside wafted up and I could hardly wait to taste its contents. With the lid cut open, I set the can opener down. Holding the lid down with one finger, I poured the brine into the sink. The pinkish, brownish, golden liquid glimmered around the edges of the drain. I lifted the lid and briefly gazed upon the contents before reaching in and pulling out one of the 8 pink cylinders within.

The buttered skillet on the stove behind me softly sizzled, but I didn’t have the patience to wait any longer. I bit into one of the hot dogs as I placed the rest in the frying pan. Delicious! And they’d be even better after being browned in the pan. My eyes rested on the red label on the empty can. “Worthington Loma Linda Big Franks” I read aloud to myself “Vegetable and Grain Protein Links.” The delicacy of all Adventist delicacies. 

Having grown up eating canned veggie meats, it never once struck me as something strange or disgusting. Most of my favorite foods came out of cans. I thought back to the time we found the last can of sandwich spread (a discontinued Loma Linda chicken spread alternative) in the back of our pantry. We savored those rare sandwiches knowing we would never again get to taste that flavor. It was such a bitter-sweet meal. I turned the big franks with the prongs of a fork and tossed the empty can into the recycling bin.

***

“Slaves to the coffee cup, they can’t give coffee up!”

“What’s that?” Phil questioned.

“That’s the last line of the song!” I laughed

“Oh my god!” he exclaimed. Shaking his head, he took a sip of his coffee. Phil, having married into our family, had never been an Adventist. There were some beliefs and practices he was familiar with, but every once in a while, Sarah or Hannah or I would astound him with a crazy little tidbit.

“You know, I bet most of those kids drink coffee now.” Sarah said as she reached for her own coffee mug. Her other hand rested on Phil’s knee under the table. The restaurant around us buzzed with lively conversations and the sound of dinnerware clinking against various dishes.

“I know! I think about that often!” I stirred my Dr. Pepper with my straw. “That song was insane! I can’t believe I used to think caffeine was a gateway drug! There’s a lot of things I can’t believe I used to believe.” 


r/exAdventist 7d ago

News Pacific Union College

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Not looking good for PUC.


r/exAdventist 18h ago

General Discussion Milo Adventist Academy

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I had a huge realization tonight, I need to ask this question.

Did anyone else believe me?

So I went to this school from 2016 -2020, if you were in my math or Bible or pe class you may have noticed I was scared of this teacher. Mr. lambie.

I am not claiming anything for sure but I think I had a right to be scared.

My actual realization was that it's possible that maybe someone else also understood why I felt that way and was just way better at hiding it. At the time I felt insane and that I was wrong for what I felt. I know now that nothing I did was wrong. But it was hard as f*ck at the time. I was so convinced I was totally wrong and that he was a cool safe teacher, but for that first year my body couldn't agree with my mind.

If this is inappropriate at all feel free to take this down, but I have to at least try! 🫥🫣


r/exAdventist 16h ago

General Discussion Who will I be seeing in Worthington???

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I'm going to need to know that some XDAs will be joining me for this. Will out myself to whoever DMs me so we can connect.


r/exAdventist 1d ago

General Discussion Rules that I grew up with in adventism

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I want to hear the rules that you guys grew up with! I’ll start:

- No jewelry including hair ties on your wrist
- No music at all
- No seasonings, onions, garlic, bread
- No dinner or snacks only breakfast and lunch
- No showering from sunset friday to sunset saturday
- No microwaves
- No tv shows or movies
- No fiction books
- No sports (playing or watching)
- No tanktops or pants (skirts must go below your knees
- No holidays
- No having fun (amusement parks, fairs, pools, etc)
- No friends were allowed at family worship because they’d ruin a scared time

And probably a million more that I can’t think of right now.


r/exAdventist 1d ago

Just Venting My experience going to Paraguay's most prestigious SDA school.

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First of all, it's my first time writing a post here, so I don't know if this counts as an ex-SDA experience because long time ago I became agnostic and my problems with SDA are more with the organization behind (or "La Unión Adventista Sudamericana (Adventist South American Union) " as they call themselves) and with christianity in general, but neither way I think it would be fun to share my experience with them.

So, backstory, I'm a 16 year old student in Paraguay currently studying in the CADA (Colegio Adventista de Asunción), which means "Adventist School of Asunción", Asunción being the capital city of Paraguay and this is my 3rd year in here, I've been here since 8th grade and now I'm on 10th grade BTI (Information Technology Baccalaureate), and I'll be direct, this place IT'S HELL.

Not only are their christian lessons complete BS, this also referring to christian lessons in generar in my agnostic point of view, but somehow lessons coming from SDA preachers or Holy History teacher are even more stupid than catholic or evangelic lesson, and that's a huge achievements.

List of the funniest SDA takes I heard:

"Oh you are worth nothing, self-esteem doesn't exist because only God can give you value".

"You can't do anything by yourself, anything is only possible if you do it for God".

"I only teach you guys the truth because I'm nice, you will never heard this in other schools".

And my top 3:

"In the second coming, God will give us perfect bodies and cure all our illnesses" (The whole autistic spectrum and all sexual orientations included for some reason).

"Values were invented by humanistic sinful people to mock and nullify God's teaching" (Because for them "Values" and "Principles/Virtues" are completely different concepts because why not).

And, my favorite and greatest take of all time:

"Homosexuality was invented by demons disguised as people to mess with statistics and demographic populations to decrease populations and mess with God" (I'M BEING SERIOUS, OUR TEACHER TOLD US THAT A TIME AGO).

But, okay, anyways I always disagreed with Christianism in general due to (In my beliefs) religion being the oldest and most effective mind washing and mind control tool used by authorities to repress us and keep us submissive and controllable. But even with that out of the list, there's still a crap ton of problems with this Universe-forsaken (Yeah, I made up that term) of a school.

First of all, students here are genuinely, with the three institutions I've been, are easily the meanest and biggest pieces of trash I've ever have the misfortune to be with, this institution is filled with douchebag and empty-minded bullies; freaky and stinky perverts; genuine PDFs; whores (Sorry to use that word but it's the only I could describe most girls in the school) and guys that are low-key egotistical lunatics that should and will be locked up in an asylum.

And the administration is not spared neither, they are absolutely INCOMPETENT, the only thing they only care about is money and how the outside world looks at them. In their socials the always post things like: "Look how nice and beneficial the adventist education is for your children, where they will get a top-tier education based on God's principles 🥰🙌". Yeah, if constant harassing and zero tolerance towards any other belief that isn't their fucking cult-like indoctrination bullshit. So yeah, you can be sure that any problems you have inside their system can and will absolutely be ignored if there's no money or damage to their image involved.

So yeah, that's all, I just wanted to vent a little it after everything I went through in this trashy school, the first thing I will do immediately after finishing high school will be exposing the hell out of this rotten organization and let everyone know how fucking terrible they are, good night.


r/exAdventist 1d ago

General Discussion How did you get out?

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It’s been officially 5 years since I left my hometown and tasted true freedom for the first time, haven’t looked back since and I was wondering how was your experience, what was the first thing that you did? Do you ever miss church?


r/exAdventist 2d ago

General Discussion What's the Most Questionable Employment Practice You've Seen in Adventism?

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Former Adventists:

Have you ever witnessed or personally experienced unpaid, uninsured, off-the-books, or under-the-table work within Adventist churches, ministries, schools, or mission projects?

Were there significant pay differences between workers doing similar roles? If so, how was it explained or justified?

Looking for firsthand experiences only.

(i am a former worker)


r/exAdventist 2d ago

Just Venting the orions belt

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Did you guys also look at Orion’s Belt at night and imagine Jesus coming through it? 😭 I honestly don’t even know where we were taught that. Was it from Doug? Lmao. Looking back on it now, I find it so funny. I used to look up at Orion’s Belt and smile at it like it was some secret sign. Like, "Yep, that's where He's coming from." I have no idea why I was so convinced, but little me took that very seriously.


r/exAdventist 2d ago

Advice / Help Does anyone have experiences with reformed Adventists from IMS (international Missionary Society)?

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Does anyone have experiences with IMS especially German division? I’m not really religious but encountered a guy who lovebombed me but withheld stuff about himself like for example that he’s a reformed Adventist. After I found out myself, a lot of stuff made sense like e.g. why he’s vegetarian, knows a lot about natural medicine and why his family moved to another country. he’s been very vague and evaded questions but still acted like we were some kind of soulmates while being abusive and unempathetic towards me. It was a very crazy and toxic experience for me, but I‘d like to find out more about where that behaviour came from. Now I‘m wondering what the youth division in IMS is like and if people there are normally two-faced.


r/exAdventist 2d ago

Advice / Help In the middle of two worlds- HELP

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I've started an internship this summer at an SDA organization, it is a great opportunity to further my career while I'm still in college. It is a very reputable company and internships like this are a very big deal. I haven't been SDA or Christian for the past 6 years so I was a bit nervous to start, I really didn't know what to expect. I assumed that they would pray sometimes, get out early on Friday's, and that most people would be SDA (which I was okay with)...but I had no idea that I would feel this bad.

Things are verrryyy religious there. I was told that if I'm asked what church I go to then say the name of an SDA church rather than tell the TRUTH that I am not religious. The environment is not really safe for someone who isn't christian, it's not a neutral space. Many things in our curriculum are tied back to the Bible, we have devotionals at the start of meetings, etc. to me it's like being back at my SDA high school (yuck). I have found myself not being truthful when someone asks if I am SDA in a conversation, I guess just to protect myself from further questions. I try to say, "Well I grew up SDA" but then comes the question, "Well, what are you now?"

It's very trippy being back in the SDA bubble physically while being out of it mentally. I actually grew to like myself a lot more after I started deconstructing and I don't want to lose those parts of myself this summer! I feel mentally exhaused all the time, trying to feel comfortable while there's no one that thinks the way that I do, and may not be very approving of who I am. It is very lonely and mentally draining. I don't have much of a desire to make friends there because these are not the type of friends that I want to have, these are not the types of people that I want to be a part of my community. They remind me of the person that I used to be, and I do not like that person.

This is a great opportunity for my to grow career wise, and maybe even have job security (in this economy lol) if things go well. I just don't know how to protect my mind/self while I am there. I really don't want to go backwards. What can I do? PLEASE HELP!!!!


r/exAdventist 3d ago

General Discussion Controlling Sda mother

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My mom is trying to control me saying “I’m shacking up” with my boyfriend and that I need to marry him. We are not ready for that atm we have only been together a year and a half. She even got one of her Sda friends to back her up. She also continues to make me feel bad about not attending church and spending money on a Saturday. Also I keep on seeing people from the church in town I live? I don’t want to ignore them but I also don’t want to explain my circumstances all the time.


r/exAdventist 3d ago

General Discussion Why do so many former Seventh-day Adventists become atheists or agnostics?

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Hello, I used to be a Seventh-day Adventist, but after entering university I started questioning some of the religion's doctrines. At first, that was fine, but when I became more involved in philosophy and science, I began questioning the existence of God itself, and today I identify as an agnostic.

What I find interesting is that many people who leave Adventism also become agnostics or atheists. Why do you think that is?

I tried attending other churches, prayed to God, and remained a Christian for quite a long time, but eventually I became more skeptical.

However, it seems more common among former Adventists (I'm not generalizing). For example, when someone says they are a former Catholic, it is often because they became Protestant, Buddhist, Spiritist, or joined another religion—not necessarily because they stopped believing in God altogether.

I wonder if one of the reasons for this is that Adventism can be quite fundamentalist. Could that be a factor?


r/exAdventist 4d ago

Memes / Humor How teenage me tried to be cool while setting up chairs at potluck

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r/exAdventist 3d ago

Just Venting And I'M the bad influence

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It's funny how everytime I come back to this subreddit is to just rant into a wall, but I cannot help it. This is like an AA meeting for me and I love it, y'all are the only thing keeping me from my lurker status. LOL.

Anyways, since I left church I've had my dad making backhanded comments about hoping I'm not a bad influence to my siblings, which is ironic since I would literally take a bullet to my head for these kids if I had to, but well. He's not made up with the fact I'm not in the church anymore yet so I kinda play devil's advocate for him on that.

The thing is, my brother has been keeping up with Adventist Youth more often lately and hanging out with the boys on the group and told me the leader of the group is a right-wing and die hard supporter of our current president (I'm not saying who, but you can take a guess. I'm from LATAM) but that he's okay with him because he's nice...? I'm not blaming my brother at all, he's a literal kid still, but the fact these kinds of people lead the church almost everywhere? Absolutely sickening. I don't want my little bro empathizing with people that would figuratively butch him and eat him alive if it weren't for the fact they belong to the same church.

I guess this is what happens when you raise your child in a bubble where all they can read is a Bible and it's adjacents. The first time they get a grip on a phone, they fall head over heels for the first asshole that screams about hating minorities and cutting off their rights.

On a completely unrelated note, my mom has told almost all the people she trusts from the church about me leaving (which once again I don't blame her for, she's been the most supportive person in this journey and I'm sure she has worries she's allowed to express), and I know gossip spreads like the plague in a church, so I find it funny to think about what do the people that are lowkey one of the reasons for me leaving have to say about it. I bet the devil has something to do with this!


r/exAdventist 3d ago

Sabbath Breakers Sabbath Breakers Club May 29 Gilgal Garden

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I've been fascinated by this sculpture garden since introduced to it watching Trent Harris' bizarre Mormon parody flick _Plan 10 From Outer Space_.

Question: if SDAs live in or visit Salt Lake City would a Saturday visit to this place break the Sabbath?

If you grew up Adventist, what do you think your parents would say about visiting such a place—on Sabbath? If you were Adventist before leaving as an adult would strolling this place fit Sabbath observance? How? Lay ministry? Let's find some nice Mormons and show them from the Bible how Satan has deceived them!

So that's a quirky little diversion to make this week's party unique. The real substance, though, as always, celebrate liberation from having to judge our weekend plans against SDA "sabbath" doctrines. Share away!

And I celebrate co-hosts of our club. If you missed last week's club session, I strongly recommend a visit. You, too, may have awesome ideas to make our club more inclusive and diverse. Wishing our fine print guidelines make hosting easy I post them, wishing to see you as host … next week!

🦶 👁️ 🦵 ⛪ 🗿 🗿 ⛪ 🦵 👁️ 🦶

Sabbath Breakers Club belongs to members of r/exAdventist on reddit. These guidelines are intended to suggest how anyone with posting privilege in this sub may start a week's Sabbath Breakers Club thread, not to control such postings.

• Keep it timely. If it's SDA-defined Sabbath somewhere on earth and no one has already started a Sabbath Breakers Club thread, you're clear to start one.

• Start Sabbath Breakers Club threads with that phrase "Sabbath Breakers Club." The reason for this is to make it easy to tell if no Sabbath Breakers Club thread has been posted for the present week. Just search "Sabbath Breakers Club" in r/exAdventist.

• You're welcome to use the image that looks like from an old woodcut of Moses smashing tables of stone with the Israelite throng celebrating their golden calf in the background, but you're not required to. Different ideas to launch the thread may invite still more, and more diverse, participation.

• Remember we're here to ease the church's attempts to control using Sabbath rules and guilt trips. Non-humiliating humor and empathy in your invitation can help set the tone, and enjoy exercising some spontaneous leadership in starting a Sabbath Breakers Club thread.

• Pass it on. Cutting and pasting this "fine print" can help future Sabbath Breakers Club hosts self-identify and feel empowered to step up and shine.


r/exAdventist 3d ago

General Discussion Don't Tell the World (an Irreverent Idea)

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So I had this thought yesterday and I felt like sharing it with all of you.

Some of us - especially those of Gen-X and elder millennials - might remember the little SDA foundational myth video series entitled Keepers of the Flame. Some of us might also remember that more recently, an Australian group added to the SDA foundational myth with a little dramatic fictionalized retelling entitled Tell The World.

I say 'fictionalized' because it presented the 15 pound Bible legend as if proven fact when even those who are part of the EGW Foundation have admitted that it's bogus! But, like Birth of a Nation and Europa The Last Battle, it's essential to build the myth of the movement even if it means altering facts or outright lying.

But anyway, the thought I had - which has a ring of irreverence which I think might resonate with some of you - would be if we could pool our resources and, perhaps, create a film about the true story of the Seventh-Day Adventist church, with particular attention on Fannie Bolton and Marian Davis. And it would be entitled "Don't Tell the World."


r/exAdventist 5d ago

General Discussion Navigating Faith Beyond Seventh-day Adventist Tradition Lately, I've found myself turning to practical sources like wikiHow more frequently than adhering to certain Seventh-day Adventist teachings that label such information as "worldly" and spiritually dangerous.

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Lately, I've found myself turning to practical sources like wikiHow more frequently than adhering to certain Seventh-day Adventist teachings that label such information as "worldly" and spiritually dangerous.

I genuinely don't see how acquiring practical knowledge that helps me develop as a person constitutes harmful worldliness. It has enabled me to improve myself, gain a clearer understanding of life, and acquire useful skills in meaningful ways.

My belief in God remains deeply intact. What has changed is my recognition that faith in God and unquestioning adherence to every Seventh-day Adventist tradition are not necessarily synonymous.

The contradiction I've observed is particularly striking. The Seventh-day Adventist Church Manual emphasises that "Satan is seeking to destroy the people of God, and one man's mind, one man's judgment, is not sufficient to be trusted," suggesting that individual thinking must be subservient to church authority.1 This teaching creates an environment where members are discouraged from seeking knowledge outside approved church channels.

The Church Manual further reinforces this position by stating that "Christ would have His followers brought together in church capacity, observing order, having rules and discipline, and all subject one to another,"1 effectively establishing a framework where institutional conformity takes precedence over personal discernment.

What troubles me is how this approach conflicts with the reality that Seventh-day Adventist regularly benefit from secular knowledge whilst simultaneously condemning it. The denomination maintains its own educational system with handbooks and resources^2^, publishes professional materials for educators^9^,^ and operates universities worldwide—all while warning members against "worldly" knowledge sources.

The General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists maintains strict control over what information is considered acceptable, offering only "official statements, magazines for different interests and age groups, the most up-to-date Church Manual, as well as the official Adventist Yearbook" as approved resources.2 This controlled information flow limits members' exposure to diverse perspectives and critical thinking.

When examined objectively, many Seventh-day Adventist beliefs appear outdated and lack substantial evidence:

  • The young-earth creationism taught by many Adventists contradicts overwhelming scientific evidence from geology, biology, and astronomy
  • The prophetic interpretation of 1844 as the "Great Disappointment" and subsequent investigative judgment doctrine lacks biblical support and historical accuracy
  • The denomination's position on other religions as part of "Babylon" conflicts with the biblical teaching of loving one's neighbour
  • The emphasis on Ellen G. White's writings as the "spirit of prophecy" creates a de facto second source of authority alongside scripture

The reality is that religion itself is fundamentally a human construct—a collection of man-made traditions, interpretations, and institutions developed to understand the divine. Seventh-day Adventism, like all denominations, represents a particular human interpretation of scripture that emerged in specific historical and cultural contexts. Its distinctive doctrines were formulated by humans, not delivered fully formed from heaven.

For me, growing in wisdom, understanding people better, and becoming kinder doesn't feel wrong—it feels honest and meaningful. It feels closer to truth than fear-based compliance ever has.

I believe in God.

But I'm learning to separate God Himself from the man-made Seventh-day Adventist traditions constructed around Him.

Because I find it difficult to accept that God would give humans minds to think, hearts to feel, and a desire to seek truth—only to expect them never to use these gifts.

I want my faith to be sincere, not driven by institutional fear.

And if learning, growing, and seeking truth honestly means questioning certain Seventh-day Adventist traditions, then I would rather be authentic before God than performative before people.

Because I believe God sees the heart more clearly than any denomination made by human hands ever could.

The Seventh-day Adventist Church has many admirable qualities—its emphasis on health, education, and mission work is commendable. But like all human institutions, it contains imperfections that merit thoughtful examination rather than blind acceptance.


r/exAdventist 6d ago

Politics “Adventist journey” is promoting tourism to Israel a government that is guilty of genocide and state sponsored rape

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It is absolutely unacceptable that the seventh day Adventist church in their official magazine is advertising travel to a country that engages in such atrocities

This is purely a recreational event


r/exAdventist 6d ago

Memes / Humor Caption Contest

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Simultaneously my dream blunt rotation, while being the thumbnail to something I saw on pornhub


r/exAdventist 7d ago

Memes / Humor I found toilet paper at my local used book store

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It never ceases to amaze me how delusional and desperate SDAs are for thinking that the United States will pass a Sunday Law that will kill exclusively anyone that believes in Ellen White and goes to Church on Saturday.

Also, one thing I noticed is that each edition of “The Great Controversy” always changes the language slightly in order to make Ellen’s prophesies more relevant to today’s current events.


r/exAdventist 7d ago

General Discussion Big Franks on sale at Walmart!

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You can save yourself the torturous run to ABC and save at the same time lol


r/exAdventist 6d ago

General Discussion The Child in the Furnace

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The nineteen-sixties were bleeding.

The decade was a violent, erratic transmission of signals that my hyper-focused mind could neither filter nor process. To a boy sitting on a hard wooden floor in rural Australia, the world outside was a sequence of sudden, catastrophic fractures projected through his parents.

First came the distant echo of the Kennedy assassination—a president shattered in broad daylight, a global gasp that rippled through the adults around me. Then, the marching feet of civil rights and the sudden silencing of Martin Luther King Jr. The world was tearing at its own seams, and the tears were broadcasting straight into our living rooms.

But it was Vietnam that truly split the sky.

The war wasn't an abstract concept; it was a daily intrusion of raw, unedited horror. I remember the flicker of the black-and-white television screen capturing a moment that permanently seared itself into my brain—the South Vietnamese general holding a pistol to the head of a Viet Cong captain on a Saigon street.

The blast was silent on our box, but the violence was absolute. The sudden, casual execution of a human life, captured in a frame and sent across the oceans to sit with me in the dark.

The next day the television was gone.

My father watched these signals not as news, but as prophecy. To him, the world wasn't just changing; it was ending. The chaos of the sixties was the literal handwriting of a terrifying, impending apocalypse. And his response to the bleeding world was simple, urgent, and final.

He decided we had to retreat from the earth entirely.

While the whole world held its breath for the moon landing, my father vanished. He left the house without telling me where he was going, leaving me entirely in the dark.

I was eight years old, crowded into the deputy principal’s lounge room alongside several of the surrounding kids, staring at a screen that didn't belong to us. We watched grainy, black-and-white shadows drift across the Sea of Tranquility. Man was arriving in the heavens at the exact moment my family was fracturing from the world.

It was about a week later that my father finally returned.

He brought no stories of space or progress, but he carried news of a different kind of destiny. He had found it. A property on the Mid North Coast NSW—cheap land, dry scrubland, a hard piece of country where he intended to start over. He also brought home a miniature Fox Terrier puppy named Trixie. We bonded instantly, two small creatures clinging to each other for warmth before the sky fell in.

When he told us about the property, his very first command was absolute:

Do not tell anyone where we are going.

That psychological weight of enforced silence was already deeply familiar to me, though it usually came from my mother. Our next-door neighbor had a daughter the same age as me, and we used to play in the backyard. One afternoon, Mum let it slip to someone that the girl was adopted. Then she remembered I was in the room. She snapped her eyes to mine and commanded me never to tell her.

I didn’t even know what the word adopted meant. I just knew, from the sharp, terrifying look on my mother's face, that I held a piece of explosive knowledge. My mind understood that this secret would somehow hurt her if it escaped my lips.

Lacking the social nuance to navigate it, I did the only thing my brain knew how to do to ensure safety: I stopped talking to her altogether. Our time in the backyard became awful and awkward. To keep the secret, I simply shut her out. I blocked her out completely.

Whether it was my mother's domestic paranoia, my father's apocalyptic flight, or my secret flights in the still darkness pretending to be asleep, the message from all sides was identical: The truth is dangerous. Keep your mouth shut.

Now, we were stripping our lives down to the bone for the final exodus.

The engine of our departure was a herd of purebred Friesian cows, given to my father by the Seventh-day Adventist dairy farm established around the College and factory where he worked. These cattle were our ticket to a new economy, a desperate gamble on survival in the scrub. We were converting our existence into livestock, preparing to drive them into a landscape that was entirely hostile to their survival.

Our departure became another classified file I had to carry in silence. I didn’t know why he wanted the move kept so quiet.

Looking back, I think it was one of two things: either he didn't want people to know he was fleeing the world because of his belief in Christ's imminent return, or he couldn't bear to let anyone know that his dairy venture was already collapsing before it began, because that hard, dry country wasn't suited for cattle. It was a choice between apocalyptic flight or shielding a private failure.

It was a massive, radical move, and he wanted no outside interference. But the point wasn't his reasoning; the point was that secrecy had become a defining, suffocating feature of my early upbringing. I was a child forced to live in the shadows of adult conspiracies.

The final departure was fractured.

My mother was still the Matron at the towns Old Peoples Home, locked into a contract she had to finish. She and my sisters stayed behind to fulfil that obligation.

When the vehicle was finally loaded for the drive north, Trixie sat right between us on the bench seat—a small, breathing shield against the empty road.

We arrived at the property with no power, no running water, just a thousand-gallon tank waiting for rain and a silence so wide it swallowed sound.

The “house” was an old fibro-clad shack. A single internal wall divided the five-by-eight-metre rectangle into two rooms.

The tank water was for drinking only.

Rationed. Precious.

For everything else, there was a shallow dam two hundred metres deep into the scrub. We would walk into the bush, dip our buckets into the dark water, and carry them back by hand. We heated it outside in a forty-four-gallon drum propped over an open fire. Life was reduced to basic physics: weight, wood, and water.

For the first six months, the property was an all-male incubator.

My mother and sisters were still down south, locked into contracts and finishing the life we had left behind. In that isolated fibro rectangle, it was just us men: my father, my brother, me, and my only companion, Trixie.

We didn’t go to a physical church during those months. Instead, we spent the Sabbath deep in the scrub. Every Saturday, Dad would lead us out into the dry bush, away from the shack. He would find a space among the trees, open his Bible, and deliver his own private sermons directly to the wilderness.

The sky was our ceiling, but the air was thick with a different kind of confinement. My brother was never interested. He sat in the dirt, restless and defiant, throwing out awkward, unanswerable questions that pierced straight through my father’s rigid certainty. He challenged the text. He challenged the authority.

His questions infuriated my father. In those quiet woods, their relationship existed on a razor's edge bordering on pure contempt. I stood between them—the silent witness to an ideological war—watching the veins tighten in my father's neck while the wind moved through the eucalyptus leaves.

It was there, sitting on a log under the heat of a makeshift pulpit, that the cosmic and the domestic became a single, terrifying architecture.

Fear was the first theology I ever learned.

Not love. Not wonder. Not reverence.

Fear.

It lived in the sermons that warned of a returning King who would split the heavens, a literal Second Coming where every eye would see Him and there would be no place left to hide. It lived in the songs we sang with shaking voices. It lived in the whispered adult conversations about the Investigative Judgment—the terrifying reality that my deepest, secret thoughts were being scrutinized in the courts of heaven. The end of the world was never presented as hope—it was absolute surveillance.

Every sermon planted the same thorn: He could come at any moment.

I carried eternity on shoulders too small for it. I carried the belief that one wrong thought could condemn me. I carried the terror of being left behind.

What adults called faith, my body experienced as hypervigilance. What they called obedience, I experienced as self‑erasure. Fear‑based religion doesn’t just shape beliefs—it rewires biology. It becomes the nervous system’s operating system.

Ontological Refuge

There is a place inside me that existed long before I had words for it— a quiet, star‑lit chamber where being itself feels lighter, where the universe folds inward and becomes a shelter.

I did not choose this cosmos. It formed around me the way a shell forms around a creature that has never known safety. An ontological necessity: if the world cannot hold me, I will hold myself in infinite space.

Out there, existence is a performance— a demand to speak fluently in languages I was never taught, to wear faces that do not fit, to move through systems that mistake silence for emptiness and sensitivity for weakness.

But in here, in the vast interior where stars hum softly, I am not required to explain myself. I do not need confidence or charm or the practiced ease of those who were born into safety.

In this inner cosmos, I am allowed to simply be— unmasked, unjudged, a consciousness floating in the only space that has ever felt like home.

And maybe this is my ontology: not the world’s definition of being, but the one I carved from necessity and survival, a universe within where existence is finally gentle.


r/exAdventist 6d ago

Advice / Help Help finding Test the Prophet's reference

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I have found this week the channel and I have not been able to find the first book, they seem like a very important argument against White. The links in the description seem to be broken but I've been able to find the second edition. I would appreciate any help.


r/exAdventist 8d ago

Advice / Help How to get over SDA Christian mom complaining?

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(22F) I’ve always had somewhat of a close relationship with my mum. However, she is going through a bad divorce w/ my dad, and we got closer lately.

My bf surprised me with a graduation trip to France, and my mum was alright with it at first (of course with discussions and complaints)

Now, 2 days before leaving, she started arguing that I’m doing the wrong thing as a Christian SDA girl, because he’s not my husband and etc etc… she’s now mad at me, and complains that I never even thought of her in this situation, my brother (28M) is going through the same thing, and we don’t know how to handle it anymore.

I don’t wanna ruin my holiday, but neither my relationship with her…

Any adviceeee?