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Episode Game Center Shoujo to Ibunka Kouryuu • Cultural Exchange with a Game Centre Girl - Episode 1 discussion

Game Center Shoujo to Ibunka Kouryuu, episode 1

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u/teddyburges Jul 21 '25

You basically talked past that person. You argued that the machines are prone to manipulation even if they're UFO based and that "basic business is you can't have people one shotting the toys". Whereas they were telling you, that THAT is what actually happens in Japan.

That they have seen people one shot toys every day and then sell them at the other shops.

Regardless of whether you believe iit or not and you arguing the fiction vs reality of it all. That person was saying that in their experience that is a daily occurance to them.

Reality vs fiction. They're going by lived experience while your sticking to a text book.

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u/StormSenSays Jul 21 '25

Offering counterarguments, and providing evidence via videos is not "arguing past". It's arguing. In contrast, "trust me, I've seen it" is not a very strong argument. I have noted that the skill/tricks are more important in some of the games -- but the examples that I've seen on video are clearly heavily chance determined (even for pros). And specifically the type of UFO shown in the anime episode (that we're commenting on) is clearly completely prone to the type of settings manipulation (claw strength, drop probability) that we've seen clearly documented in claw machines.

Here's an obvious marketing ploy: If you're running a claw machine shop, then you want some resell shops operating -- because it suggests to potential players that 'skill' will guarantee a profitable win. So... easy enough for the operator to sell prizes directly to the resale shop. Or tweak the settings for a 'shop pro' to 'win' and sell to the resale shops if they want to obscure it more. I'm not saying that this necessarily happens, but I am saying that the presence of resale shops doesn't really prove 'pros who make a profit'.

Again, the one thing that you can absolutely guarantee is that one way or another, the machines will be rigged to guarantee that the operator makes a profit. That alone guarantees that the games will not rely simply on skill.