r/policeuk 3d ago

Ask the Police (England & Wales) Do I report harassment I witnessed?

25 Upvotes

Update:

I have submitted a report

Thankyou for the advice

also to whoever made a comment about race- that was extremely unnecessary and incorrect.

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I saw some girls being harassed by a couple of men in a car last week. They were walking along on an empty street (I was a little behind). The men drove by, called out, girls weren't interested but the men kept following them alone the street in the car, stopping and pestering them.

At one point the driver got out the car to try and get the girls to go in with them. The women were polite and kept trying to leave but the driver kept pestering.

I got a picture of the car and the reg but I don't know whether its worth reporting just so it is on record. I walked past and eventually walked away once they reached a busy area as there were more people outside far more capable of intervening if need be.

It just made me extremely uncomfortable and I wasn't even the one being harassed.

I don't expect anything to be done about this incident as it was minor but I wonder if it needs to be made note of.


r/policeuk 3d ago

Ask the Police (England & Wales) Public appeals

8 Upvotes

For obvious reasons this is as vague as is necessary to protect investigation and victim.

When someone is sexually assaulted by a stranger in a public area, is it normal that there might be a delay in public appeal for information/witnesses?

Trying to understand the process and the complexity of multiple forces involved. We don’t know if police have been to the site to collect evidence or not because that is a different force and they havent made contact. The waiting around is so hard for us all.


r/policeuk 3d ago

General Discussion Theoretical question

13 Upvotes

Hello all, theoretical question for you, mate of mine is hitting the limit and would suggest he is completely stressed and burnt out. How would he go about ‘going off sick’ is it a case of approaching OH and waiting 4 months for an appt or a GP visit and if they agree they need a couple weeks off they inform their skipper?


r/policeuk 4d ago

General Discussion Confidence in the CPS

63 Upvotes

After the outcome of the Manchester Airport assault case and the CPS now publicly saying what they've previously told officers privately, that it's "not in the public interst to prosecute" an assault on an officer, how many officers can say they trust the CPS when it comes to assaults on police?


r/policeuk 4d ago

Ask the Police (England & Wales) Recall to duty?

39 Upvotes

Any fed reps on here? Or anybody clued up on regs?

I am a Temp Detective Inspector on rest days. This morning I went shopping and came across store security struggling with detaining a shoppie. I assisted in detaining, and he coughed it to me whilst waiting for uniformed colleagues to arrive. Gone home, done a statement, use of force form etc etc.

More than happy to help whilst I’m off duty, but does anybody know where I stand in terms of what I’m entitled to for having spent several hours of my rest day doing work?

Thanks in advance!


r/policeuk 4d ago

General Discussion Forced Move

20 Upvotes

Patrol -> DC

Hello all, on my patrol team there is currently talks to force staff to a desk job as a “DC” on the safeguarding unit.

It’s quite likely I may be chosen and at the end of the day I joined the uniform route for a reason and not the detective role.

Any advice on what I can do and what my next steps would be if I am moved. I appreciate only time will tell and maybe I may enjoy the move and learn skills from the experience, however it is a permanent move and I most certainly do not want to be a detective, especially this early on in my career.


r/policeuk 4d ago

Ask the Police (Scotland) Scotland - power to evacuate residents

10 Upvotes

There was a similar thread for England & Wales a few weeks ago but this question specifically relates to Scotland. Currently around 100 houses in Clackmannanshire have been evacuated due to ground movement caused by mining subsidence.

It started with 30 houses on 20th May but more streets have been evacuated since then and it doesn't look like they'll be back any time soon. According to the media, residents were given 10 minutes to gather belongings and get out. Photos on the BBC show the streets have been temporarily fenced off with police motors sitting outside.

I'm curious what power is being used to enforce this. Can anyone offer any insight? If a resident answered the door and said "No thanks I'd rather just stay here" what would they get lifted for? I can't imagine it's a breach of the peace but could it be reckless and culpable conduct?


r/policeuk 5d ago

General Discussion Entire shift and nothing positive

127 Upvotes

Don't get me wrong, I have done nothing across my shifts in the past (*wink armed policing), but back on frontline - today was a true sign of the times.

From the moment I got in, to the moment I left, aside from deleting / replying to pointless emails, I spent the whole shift working on one person who is having a neighbour dispute and causing problems with their equally troublesome neighbour, and both sides are doing everything they possibly can to harass one another in the most underhanded ways possible and to involve everyone from the local MP to Childline to the RSPB - and of course us. Let's be clear - I did not speak to any party, I did not see any party. I created documents, I sent emails, I "flagged things up", I consulted with "partners". But I achieved nothing except assess risk of harm over a non-crime situation created by two idiots who cannot get along and want to harm one another and use us to do it.


r/policeuk 4d ago

General Discussion Commonwealth games

8 Upvotes

Working the fan zone this year, anyone got any recommendations for must have kit/essentials to bring with?


r/policeuk 5d ago

Ask the Police (England & Wales) Can a Verbal Charge Be Just One Sentence?

11 Upvotes

For the sergeants (and custody skippers especially) in England & Wales:

Random charging-law question.

When you actually charge someone in custody or otherwise, is there a minimum legal requirement under PACE or any other legislation for how the charge has to be delivered?

For example, does it need to follow a particular format with specific wording, or could it theoretically be as simple as:

“You committed X offence on Y date. You are charged. You do not have to say anything…”

…and that suffices?

I’ve read bits of PACE Code C around charging and cautions, but I can’t work out whether there’s a mandated formula for the charge itself, or whether the key requirement is simply that the suspect is informed of the offence and then cautioned appropriately.

Interested in the practical reality too - what are people actually taught, and has anyone ever seen a charge challenged because of the wording used?


r/policeuk 5d ago

News No second retrial for men accused of Manchester Airport brawl

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97 Upvotes

r/policeuk 5d ago

Ask the Police (England & Wales) Query around letting a police car (with blue lights and sirens pass)

31 Upvotes

Hello all! This scenario happened a while ago and I've been feeling like a right plonker ever since, so thought I'd ask you.

I'm driving on the motorway or dual carriage way (cant remember) at night (say 2am). There are two lanes. Lane two is closed for roadworks, meaning cones that are slightly over into lane 1 - i.e. lane 1 was narrower than normal. We had a reduced speed limit of 50 from the usual 70. There is one car in front of me by some distance and also one car behind me with some distance. So obviously we are all in lane 1, with cones to my right and a hard shoulder to my left. Single file traffic.

Behind us enter a police car with sirens and blue lights, the full show. I see them in my rear view mirror and I see the car several hundred yards behind me slow down and enter the hard shoulder to let them pass, which they do. They are now behind me...

My thinking was "I'm not supposed to go onto the hard shoulder as a civilian motorist and the rules state I shouldn't break traffic rules even if it is to let emergency vehicles passed". I also figured THEY would undertake me on the hard shoulder if it was that important. And I thought the roadworks would end within a 200 yards or so (this was on a long bend and at night so I couldn't necessarily see). Well, the police car stayed behind me and the roadworks went on forever. After a few seconds they switched their lights and sirens off except for a residual little blue light at the top. In other words, they weren't going to pass me but I could see they still had the emergency to go to. Of course, super stressful. The last thing I want to do is hold up an emergency vehicle. But then I figured they could beep their horn at me, put their lights and sirens back on, undertake me etc.

They didn't.

And of course they bloody roadworks went on for what felt like forever. Maybe a mile or so. Ugh. As soon as the roadworks were finished and it became two lanes again, the sirens and lights came back on and they overtook me.

Now...I guess technically my decision was right (don't break traffic rules). That thought was reinforced by the behaviour of the police car behind me....I guess they are instructed and taught the same thing: don't force civilians to break the rules. But on a more situational level I felt horrible about it. The car behind me moved onto the hard shoulder, and also technically not allowed, I'd imagine your colleagues were grateful for it.

Obviously with lane 1 being narrow due to the cones, we were driving closer to the left end of lane line (and therefore, hard shoulder) than usual. This may be why they didn't feel it was safe to pass me there.

So my question is: what are your thoughts? Should I just have moved onto the hard shoulder and let them pass despite it technically not being allowed??


r/policeuk 6d ago

General Discussion The time has come

115 Upvotes

After nearly 14 years in policing, the time has come for me to move on.

I can honestly say I won’t miss the job itself, but I will miss the people. The officers and staff who turn up day after day, give everything they have, support each other through the worst days, and somehow keep going despite the pressures placed on them.

Thank you to the hardworking colleagues who made difficult shifts bearable, who looked out for one another, and who continued to care when it would have been easier not to. Your resilience, humour, and loyalty are what keep many of us afloat.

Policing is far from easy, and those on the frontline deserve far more recognition than they often receive. I leave with a huge amount of respect for the people still doing the job and for the friendships made along the way.

Wishing you all safety, strength, and better days ahead.

Choo Choo 🚂


r/policeuk 6d ago

General Discussion Female dress code for CID/DA

14 Upvotes

Can you wear skirts/dresses?


r/policeuk 7d ago

Ask the Police (England & Wales) Bail Address & Custody Officers

27 Upvotes

Wondering if any knowledgeable officers can help me out with a custody related question.

Whilst attempting to bail a detainee in Metland, the custody skipper refused as we had no valid address to bail the detainee.

We also had insufficient evidence to charge with any offences and no reasonable lines of enquiry that would change this within the 24 hour PACE clock (a PACE extension also wasn't suitable).

It was necessary to bail the detainee away from the vulnerable victim's address for many reasons.

On being provided rationale for the bail, the custody Sergeant refused to bail the detainee until an address was sourced by the OIC for the suspect.

This was unable to be completed, and after shift change the detainee was bailed.

Where in law, (PACE, PACE Codes, or elsewhere) does it state that we need to have a valid address to bail a detainee?

It's my understanding that after we provide a rationale to the Custody Officer it is their choice, and could be considered unlawful detention in some circumstances.

There appears to be nothing in PACE Part IV that I could find relating to this, so is it just Met policy/general safeguarding of detainees? If so, at what point is it considered necessary to detain someone for this to be carried out rather than bailing them?


r/policeuk 8d ago

News Met police to release more body-worn cam footage

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r/policeuk 8d ago

General Discussion Slandering your favourite specialism - Part 2!

85 Upvotes

Enjoy the salty goodness of part 1 here

Public Protection / Vulnerability Unit

Remember in part one, where we said the freshly minted DC worries that they might be a social worker with extra steps? Well, luckily for you that ambiguity is removed; you *are* a social worker, somehow with minus steps. And without the privilege of having things like a fixed end of workday or ability to pass your problem to someone else (spoiler alert, you're the someone else). Think of yourself like the stuff sailors in the age of sail would use to plug a leak in their ship. How can you be expected to plug all the other leaks in the sinking ship of the social safety net, answer; yes. You probably didn't want to be here. Either you saw this this was the least-worst stepping-stone to CID (somehow), or you've been dragged here from division kicking and screaming, or at least mildly miffed at being exiled from police work to what is widely regarded as a black hole that sucks morale out of cops like a fat kid draining a McDonalds milshake. It's not that you don't care. In fact you'll probably be overwhelmed with care in the first few months as case after case of desperate, degraded and damaged people gets dropped on your you desk, falling through the cracks in social services, in much the same way the runs drop out the crack of a punter the morning after 10 pints and a vindaloo. And boy-oh-boy are you in the splash zone. But soon, you become numb, like being constantly jabbed by a needle, it still hurts, but you eventually learn to accept there's no escape. It's like you've been trained as an electrician, only for someone to dump a sparking nuclear reactor on your desk and say 'fix it'. Rapidly, it becomes apparent that you are undertaking a job you are not equipped or supported to do, and nobody up the chain cares too much as long as your cases stay off the national news. And that's why, despite a crippling caffeine addiction and borderline dependence on meal deals from the shop across from the foreboding back-office where you work, you keep on working. Because the only thing worse than this specialism, is being this specialism in front of a coroner. TRiM and Wellbeing are in your most-called that month, and you've fantasised about backhand-slapping at least one person you've talked to in local social services. Per week. You never thought there was a more thankless job than response, and you're cursing your past self for thinking that. Honestly I can't even be that mean to you. You've truly been thrown head-first into shit creek.

Dogs

No, not you, Rex. You are a dog, and are already perfect. No this is about the gangly bipedal butler that picks up your poop and distributes biscuits.

On paper, your job is simple. You are chauffeur to an expert in drug detection, explosives detection, money-finding, corpse-locating, and/or a general all-rounder with a side-hustle of fine-dining on violent fuckheads, and creating a general area of deterrence 10-100 metres wide. They also enjoy a good tennis ball. But it's not just driving them round, it's that your expert is often taken home with you. It gets hungry, or sometimes has the shits when it scoffed something on the ground that split-second you weren't looking. It needs constant training and re-certifying. You might be one of the unlucky sods that even has to stable your own vehicle at your own time and expense. And it's looking at all these details, and the price attached, that cause Chief Officers, finance bods and other REMFs hoplessly addicted to data metrics to get very twitchy at the general idea of you. Despite having working equipment that you are literally responsible for keeping alive and well for a working life of 4-8 years, you are constantly clenching your cheeks whenever you open your emails and see updates from SLT. The word 'restructuring' causes PTSD flashbacks. Over the years your unit has been cut more times than a Christmas brie. Your unit's remit has changed so many times, you're only really certain when your duty starts and finishes. The truth is, your force often struggles to know what to do with you, despite the answers being painfully obvious to anyone at the operational level, and your companion literally having it in their job title. You're used to your colleagues being happier to see your dogs than they are to see you, and could swear that your dog has a glint in it's eye that says "if they had to pick which one of us to save from a burning building, we know who they're picking". But still, you're blissfully disconnected from things like paperwork, patrol taskings, and even direct supervision. The odds are strong that you have filled dead-mans-shoes. Even if SLT fucks you around, this is still a cushty gig, massively oversubsribed in recruitment, and you, not entirely unjustly, consider yourself a step above the other peons on the frontline. It would take an entire crew of a fire engine with power tools to pry you out of this gig.

Covert Policing

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Nobody has any idea how much of a tingle you get writing that and it actually meaning something. You're either an old boy who thinks the SDS was mint, or someone under 50 who curses them for fucking it up for everyone else since. You sometimes wish you'd put in the work to be good enough for MAST. But then you remember how much police work that would entail and think better of it. You can actually be heard across districts shouting the word "ACKSHUALLY" when you hear some plainclothes copper with ideas above their station refer to their work as 'covert policing'. Plebs. I could tell you more. But I'd have to kill you. That joke never gets old. To you anyway.


r/policeuk 8d ago

General Discussion The upcoming season of Love Island has a DC on it

75 Upvotes

How the hell was she allowed to get that much time off and for that reason 🤣


r/policeuk 8d ago

General Discussion Commandeering of vehicles in limits

16 Upvotes

I've been reading the "Police War Duties manual (Scotland) 1976" because I really know how to party and have taken an interest in civil defense and in extent the part to play of statutory services.

Given the year of its publication, the Cold War was still a very prevalent fear and nuclear war quite a real threat which is where its primary focus really is. The manual states that during a hypothetical nuclear detonation that has an overwhelming affect on population centers (as one imagines it would) the police would form into mobile policing columns, similar to the AFS of the same time period.

The section that states this (s2.3.1 "MUTUAL AID" if anyone cares to explore further) states "TRANSPORT FACILITIES SUPPLEMENTED BY DORMANT VEHICLE HIRE CONTRACTS, TOGETHER WITH POWER (WHEN AVAILABLE) TO REQUISITION AND USE OTHER MOTOR VEHICLES, FORCES WILL BE FULLY MOBILE". I realize that in this situation, they may very well have been gambling on individuals not being concerned about us commandeering vehicles (which would hopefully be a valid thought process), but what power if any allows us to requisition vehicles or "dormant vehicle hire contracts"?

I realize this is an unlikely situation and realistically people would not be concerned with the powers we're using to use vehicles after a nuclear explosion or anything of the same scale, but I'm still curious if anyone is aware of any powers we actually have during times of disaster or even during normal times.


r/policeuk 8d ago

General Discussion Keeping Cool

37 Upvotes

I'm about to go onto late shift. I'm relatively new to the police and have yet to work in temperatures this hot. What tips or tricks do you guys have to stay cool when out and about.

I know typical stuff like air con in cars which is a given, also got one thermos with water and taken my soup thermos and filled it with ice so that'll hopefully last the next 9 hours of my life!

Any other ideas will be greatly welcomed!


r/policeuk 8d ago

General Discussion Uber Boats (Thames Clippers) - Free Travel (Met)

45 Upvotes

Has anyone recently been on the Uber Boats in London recently?

I haven't been for about a year or two, but it was previously free on production of a warrant card off duty. I tried to use one recently and was told that free travel has stopped for the police. Sure enough their website now says "Police Officers may travel free on timetabled services providing they produce a Warrant Card. They must be in uniform and on duty, and produce their staff identification card." Which seems pointless as I can't see there ever being an operational need to take a boat whilst on duty. On the intranet it still lists it as free along with the Cable Car and then all the more 'normal' TfL services.


r/policeuk 8d ago

Ask the Police (England & Wales) Tour of Duty - Court

32 Upvotes

Hi all,

I’ve always been under the impression that when called to court, that is your tour of duty

There have been occasions I’ve turned up only to be stood down an hour or two later.

More regularly, I’m there from 9-6pm and don’t give evidence before being told I’m not actually needed…

Am I right in thinking that court is considered your tour of duty? Can I fuck off whenever I’m stood down?

I always have done and not got in shit, as that’s been my understanding…

Am I wrong?


r/policeuk 9d ago

General Discussion Washing Armour

38 Upvotes

So be honest with me , how often we washing our armour / stab vests .

Girls on shift yesterday said every set ? .. am I grim for not ?

Edit *. I should state I wash mine every few sets.


r/policeuk 9d ago

General Discussion Will Claire’s law tell the person that I asked about them?

13 Upvotes

I want to request the history of my father as I am aware of previous physical abuse he has done towards my mother. I still live with him. My mother does not. I am increasingly scared of my safety after watching his mental health deteriorate over the past 10 years.
I’ve never been told the truth of what happened between my parents/ they’ve always alluded to the fact there’s things I don’t know.
I feel I have the right to know as I’m living with the, for lack of better words.. abuser.
I am worried they will tell my father that someone has requested information about him as I’ve seen that they do that.

Anyone know if this is true?


r/policeuk 10d ago

General Discussion Police dance with kids at 1 love Manchester

371 Upvotes