r/Multifandom TAWOG, TADC, Cuphead, DW, 5SOS(BS), SPRUNKI, MLP, and NNSG 6d ago

Question❓ Fandom you feel is like this?

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u/Comfortable-Regret 6d ago

Why is everyone saying TADC? Of the main cast, there are 3 men, 3 women, and 1 nonbinary person. It's an even split, not a female dominated cast.

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u/Anti_Spedicy 6d ago

They don't like Jax, that's why

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u/Kego_Nova 6d ago

Jax haters on their way to either make great criticisms or be insufferable with no inbetween

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u/Karkava 5d ago

While I do believe that bad actors invaded this space, I also think that nobody was prepared to have Jax be a base breaking character.

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u/BasicMatter7339 5d ago

I hate jax, but in a good way. He's just such a dick, i love to hate him

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u/thecuven 6d ago

Do you have homework you need to do

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u/Diligent_Set_8747 6d ago

Clock in and put the fries in the bag bro.

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u/Kego_Nova 6d ago

That's a creative way to try and invalidate someone's take I'll give you that

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u/Unusual69thCheese 6d ago

found one

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u/_WilliamAfton_ 6d ago

"We found one, a real one"

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u/Disastrous-Scheme-57 6d ago

It’s Jax and pomni as the main characters so Jax haters will say it’s more male dominated. I will say though that kinger doesn’t do much along with Caine so I’d argue it’s more female centric

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u/djninjacat11649 5d ago

Eh, Kinger was kinda the main focus of the most recent episode or two, if we want to point toward a character that barely does anything then Gangle is right there

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u/Sweet-Bottle6715 4d ago

Are you fucking kidding me? Caine, the MAIN VILLAIN of the show, and Kinger, the one who saves them all from the circus. They “don’t do much?”

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u/Klutzy-Alarm3748 4d ago

He is 1. supposed to be very flawed and 2. one of the two main characters of the show. I don't get the hate in this context either

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u/happy_grump 3d ago

I mean he IS quite the scamp

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u/Sea-Discussion-5393 5d ago

Yeah because he’s the most boring fucking character that for some reason gets so much attention from the show.

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u/Anti_Spedicy 5d ago

Cause he's the main character, bro. Along with Pomni.

Pomni = narrative device/self insert for audience

Jax = character meant to experience the most growth/focal character.

Kinger = the character which the most valuable role

Everyone else (excluding Caine and Bubble) = supporting cast

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u/Top-Home-Depot-Fan 6d ago edited 6d ago

Well yes, I just find him really annoying, he takes up screen time when other characters could use it. We know more about him then the other main character of the show. We’re probably not going to learn anything new about Pomni and this point, because her whole goal at this is just to make sure Jax doesn’t kill himself.

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u/Anti_Spedicy 6d ago

That's not her goal as a character.

She's the audience's self insert. Jax is the character that's supposed to experience growth or die while Pompom is the character that pushes the story along.

Pomni 's story isn't important to the plot of the show.

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u/Goliath--CZ 6d ago

Almost made the same mistake. Was just wondering about to say expedition 33 but there's also 3 of each gender in the main cast

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u/heird1599 6d ago edited 6d ago

Expedition 33 feels female dominante because in chapter 1 there are three females and one man while in chapter two there are three females and two males. So yeah while technically we have 6 main characters and three of each gender for the entire story there are more females in the party

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u/FistToTheFace 6d ago

You did a discord spoiler and not a Reddit spoiler, Reddit uses >! !<

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u/heird1599 6d ago

My bad, fixed it

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u/Dottore_Curlew 6d ago

also the girl(s) just get more attention because they are more important to the story

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u/heird1599 6d ago

I wouldn't say so, in part 1 the focus Is mostly on Gustave, in part 2 and 3 the focus Is mostly equally on maelle and verso

In particular in part 3 everyone who's not related to the dessandre family largely takes a backseat

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u/Tanakisoupman 6d ago

There’s also the fact that Monoco is less of a character than the others and Gustave dies really early

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u/Kwaku-Anansi 6d ago

Despite being an ensemble, some characters are always more "main" than others insofar as their development is centered

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u/Apart-Performer-331 6d ago

Yes, but a pretty important detail of the post is that it says “female dominated cast”

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u/Lopsided-Farmer-9422 6d ago

While it technically is 3/3/1 (the 1 being Zooble), the human cast is 3/2/1 and all the female casts character arcs end up revolving around how Jax mistreats them

Zooble isn’t attacked as often, but then again her impact only really amounts to supporting Gangle, Kinger barely has any interaction with him anyways, even with Pomni he has a whole speech against her denouncing their friendship trying to abstract her the same way he did Ribbit and Kaufmo because he’s a confirmed sexist

The only character who really gets to exist outside of him and have their own character arc is Caine, another male character

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u/im-not-salty-ur-bad 6d ago

I would like Jax much more if goose didn't pretend it would be somewhat even between characters before making Jax the main center of multiple episodes (including one that was said to be another characters) while my favorite characters (zooble) gets like half of one episode centered around them

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u/Lopsided-Farmer-9422 6d ago

While this is true, I also want to mention there’s still a disparity. Jax has half the series and a movie revolving around him, while most of the female casts arcs are centred on him (because they get mistreated by him!)

Gangle is his perpetual victim, Zooble only really amounts to helping Gangle out (name one impactful dialogue she has had with any other character). Ragatha’s whole character is about being there for other characters, Pomni defends his abusive behaviour tooth and nail despite only knowing him for a short time

Kinger really doesn’t have a character arc besides vague C&A lore drops, but at least he doesn’t revolve around Jax. Caine definitely isn’t revolving around him either, he gets a series long arc about not understanding humans

Why is it that the two abusive male characters in the series hog the most the screentime? Why is Pomni, the main character, barely even the focus?

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u/imsmartiswear 5d ago

I think its mostly coming from the fact that Ragatha has gotten practically no spotlight time, let alone an episode, Gangle hasn't gotten one in over nearly 2 years (Episode 3) in a show that's only 2.5 years old, and Pomni has been mostly used as a way to explore Jax and his intricacies. I think people (shittily) also throw Zoobl into the "female dominated cast" despite them being NB.

I really like that Jax is as complex a character as he is, but I also wish some of the other characters (especially Ragatha, but also in part Pomni without just being used as a point of contrast to Jax or Kinger) had gotten a tad bit more of a highlight.

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u/happy_grump 3d ago

It's because people either (generous interpretation) don't realize Zooble in NB or (cynical interpretation) either refuse to recognize it or consider them femme/part of the women due to having an AFAB and she/they-pronoun-using voice actor and thus deciding to group them with the women

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u/4anyreason 1d ago

Highkey because people arent used to a popular show having so many women

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u/r0tten2thecore MLP:FiM🐎 ; Arcane 6d ago

Technically Caine isn't a man. He goes by he/him but he isn't a man, he is code, or, in the situation, a god. So it's 2 men, 3 women, 1 nonbinary person and a he/him God just like God in the Bible

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u/No_Location_8199 6d ago

Caine isn't a person

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u/NerdyEmbarrassment 6d ago

Wait isn’t it 2 men?

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u/Comfortable-Regret 5d ago

I was counting Caine

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u/NerdyEmbarrassment 5d ago

That’s not the main cast at that point, that’s just all the major characters of the show

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u/Kei_Evermore 5d ago

and 1 of the man characters gets more lines spoken in the entire series than 1 of the women characters and the non-binary character combined (Jax, Angle, and Zooble, respectively)

Hells, Jax gets more lines in the episode where he's tied up for majority of it than Ragatha and Gangle do combined

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u/Zouif_Zouif 5d ago

*2 Men, 3 women, 1 nonbinary and 1 AI

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u/Sad_Protection269 3d ago

Wait hold on? Which one is non binary?! Is it zooble? I hadn't noticed

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u/Lonely_Repair4494 3d ago

Most don't count Caine as part of the main cast

But I don't blame em as Jax is someone hard to want to watch

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u/SeaWeird4920 2d ago

I won’t lie it is partially because I hate Jax, but I would argue that the one nonbinary character doesn’t change the fact that Jax is taking up attention from the mainly femme cast and nonbinary character. I’d argue it’s worse that we have only one nonbinary character that is overshadowed by a masc character whilst Jax’s main victims are women or a minority.. say what you want, I know it’s not the “biggest” issue. I would still argue that it applies, even if not as perfectly as the others. Though maybe im just lost in my resentment for the character, im not ashamed to admit I just hate him lol

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u/this_is-temporary 2d ago

They forgot about Caine counting probably (also some people still think zooble is female because they dropped the show)

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u/this_is-temporary 2d ago

( spoiler) Also they marketed pomni as the main character but they made him the main character in the movie i believe

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u/Impressive-Time8150 2d ago

People either hate jax, desperately want to peg him or both. It's most likely both

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u/CaseOfBees 15h ago

Caine is a man but also an ai and has a separate role in the show so it feels weird to count him. I'd say its 3:2:1

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u/Lucy_Gucey 2h ago

What’s TADC?

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u/Individual-Sweet3400 6d ago

bubble isn't a main character?

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u/howhow326 6d ago edited 5d ago

This post is literally about female dominated casts that the fandom ignores to hyperfocus on a male character, you didn't read this post.

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Main Characters - Pomni (F), Ragatha (F), Jax (M)

Secondary Characters - Zooble (NB), Gangle (F), Kinger (M)

Antagonist - Cain (M)

"TADC is not Female dominated" sure Jan.

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u/MasutadoMiasma 6d ago

I don't think you read their comment

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u/HandsomeGengar 6d ago

Yeah, and Digital Circus’s cast is not female dominated.

There are three main female characters (Pomni, Ragatha, and Gangle), and three main male characters (Jax, Caine, and Kinger)