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u/SosseV 13d ago

Can someone explain me the casting controversy around this film? I've only heard a trans actor was cast as Achilles, which is, if you actually know the Illiad, a choice that absolutely makes sense.

Don't know what the other controversy is about though.

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u/Far_Ladder_2836 13d ago

Lupita Nyong'o is black and plays Helen.  The original poster in the meme thinks this would be fixed by casting the above actress who, if you've wver been to Greece, looks way more caucasian/white than your average Greek.

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u/SosseV 13d ago

Had to Google her but Helen's main thing is that she is one of the most beautiful women in the world, so once again absolutely defendable casting.

I don't know why I would join in in such stupid non-discussions anyhow, as if any maga idiot would be convinced by rational arguments, or as if I should care as a European.

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u/LimpAd1859 13d ago

First of all, Lupita is beautiful but despite what you Redditors keep repeating, she’s nowhere close to one of the most beautiful woman in the world. 

Second, by this logic casting Tom Cruise as Obama would be “absolutely defensible” because both are known for being charismatic. 

Third, it’s not “maga” to dislike these terrible castings and the fact that you think it is makes it very doubtful you “had to google her” to get this often repeated talking point about Helen of Troy being the most beautiful woman in the world but ignoring literally everything else in her description.

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u/Largeitude 13d ago

Second, by this logic casting Tom Cruise as Obama would be “absolutely defensible” because both are known for being charismatic.

If Obama was a fictional character, the you’d have a point.

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u/LimpAd1859 13d ago

It's the exact same logic whether the character is fictional or not, it just becomes very obvious that the logic is flawed when applied to non-fictional characters like Obama.

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u/Largeitude 13d ago

It’s absolutely not the same logic. It’s a fictional story. The characters can be purple.

Or even animals. The Lion King was based on Hamlet. Did you take a stink about how hamlet was a white man and not a yellowish lion?

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u/LimpAd1859 13d ago

It's absolutely the same logic. The casting choice being defensible because the actor fits one character trait despite otherwise not fitting the character at all does not change based on whether the story is fictional or not.

If you want to make the argument that casting choices only matter in non-fictional stories but don't in fictional stories because it's "fiction", then that is a different argument unrelated to the logic that fitting one character trait makes the casting defensible.

It’s a fictional story. The characters can be purple.

Characters can be made purple in non-fictional stories too, that would just be a bad choice that makes no sense, just like casting Lupita as Helen of Troy is.

Or even animals. The Lion King was based on Hamlet. Did you take a stink about how hamlet was a white man and not a yellowish lion?

The Lion King was inspired by Hamlet, it's not an actual adaption nor does it claim to be an adaptation of Hamlet, nevermind an accurate one.

What a dumb argument. Are you usually this dumb or just when it comes to defending blackwashing?