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u/Harry_Saturn 13d ago

Careful, you’re going to hurt the snowflakes’ feelings

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u/gatorsfan5192 13d ago

I don't believe in God. Oh noes

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u/Fatalaros 13d ago

Jesus does get depicted differently in different parts of the world (i.e. Ethiopia, Korea) so why would he being portrayed white cause a stir? Bad argument.

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u/Knight-SirMarshal 13d ago

People like you give a shit, famously so.

But the real reason is because Jesus is depicted in the eyes of his followers. White Jesus is European Jesus, Asia and Africa equally have regional versions that look more like them but not more like the "original" Jesus.

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u/Harry_Saturn 13d ago

lol so it is about the principle or not?

I don’t really care about Jesus or the casting, I’m just pointing out how it’s only when people who look a certain way get put in the spotlight that it’s a huge deal. Jesus “it’s in the eye of the beholder” but also it’s not for another character in a fictional story with gods and a cyclops? Yeah ok, you guys are just too sensitive that you can’t see an argument for its merit, it’s always gotta turn into a victim complex.

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u/Knight-SirMarshal 13d ago

Yes, we know you don't truly care.

You're comparing two different things and claiming they are the same. Jesus is a central figure of Christianity, the son of God in a global religion practiced on every continent. Whilst Helen of Troy is a character from the cultural storytelling and mythology of Greece.

Your argument has no merit, and is trying to apply the same principle to different situations.

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u/Harry_Saturn 13d ago edited 13d ago

You’re saying we have to be “true” to fictional characters but can take liberties with people you assume were “real”. How is “the fake thing has to be real but the real thing can be edited” something you can say while saying someone else’s argument has no merit. Wouldn’t you want the “real”, more important person to be more accurate? I can’t believe you typed that last reply thinking it was good instead of just seeing you’re showing how ridiculous your logic is.

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u/Knight-SirMarshal 13d ago

That's a lot of words to say you didn't understand what I said.

Jesus isn't changed because he was a real person, but because he is a symbol of a global religion, and is supposed to be the son of God, created in our image.

Helen of Troy on the other hand is a character from a cultural story and mythology rooted in Greece.

Perhaps this would be more understandable if the mythology was non-White / European, and we cast white actors in it, and called it white washing?

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u/Knight-SirMarshal 13d ago

You keep failing to understand, and I'm not sure if this is a genuine inability to comprehend, or willful ignorance.

We're clearly going in loops now, and yet you simply can't comprehend even the most basic things I've said. Even the fact you think "Our image" is "so white" proves that you've failed to read and comprehended me, because I quite notably pointed out African and Asian Jesus, who is created to look like them rather than White or Middle Eastern Jesus.

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u/Harry_Saturn 13d ago

This whole thing is over a black Helen, fucking imagine the absolute melt down if Mel Gibson had casted a black dude to play Jesus and then tell me you’re still seriously thinking this is a good point. Or don’t, that’s fine too. If you can’t let it go, I will. Since you’re not bound by good faith or logic then I’m kind of the idiot for still interacting with you if I’m being honest.

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u/Knight-SirMarshal 13d ago

You are the idiot, you've failed to understand my arguments then called them illogical, and accused me of acting in bad faith.

Don't respond again, I won't. Arguing with my neighbors dog would yield better results.

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u/KirbyBucketts 13d ago

Helen of Troy on the other hand is a character from a cultural story and mythology rooted in Greece.

True, I remember reddit's outrage at "O Brother, Where Art Thou"....The Soggy Bottom Boys couldn't add one rebetiko to the setlist?? Hollywood elites and their Bluegrass-washing as always.

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u/LimpAd1859 13d ago

People like you give a shit and mention it all the time lol, even though Jesus is far more likely to have looked white than Helen of Troy is to have looked black.

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u/Harry_Saturn 13d ago

“How dare a director take artistic liberty with a fictional story that includes gods and cyclops?”

But also

“How dare you not grant me nuance when addressing historical and prevalent white washing?”

lol clutch your pearls harder, you little snowflake

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u/LimpAd1859 13d ago

Imagine getting triggered by being called out for hypocrisy and then calling others snowflakes, have you no self-awareness?

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u/Harry_Saturn 13d ago

lol already down to the “NO YOU!” strategy? You’re the one asking to treat white washing with nuance

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u/AbsMcLargehuge 13d ago

Bruh, you absolutely sound like a snowflake. Textbook

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u/LimpAd1859 13d ago

Lashing out and calling people snowflakes because you got triggered doesn't give you a monopoly on calling out that behaviour my friend.

You’re the one asking to treat white washing with nuance

If you think facts are something that shouldn't be acknowledged then you are way too far gone lmao.

Jesus was a Jewish person, Jewish people still exist today my friend, and some of them look "white" and some don't.

You know who also exist today? Indigenous Greek people, and they're not in any way black like sub-Saharan Africans.

If anyone is treating "white washing with nuance" it's you and your "artistic liberty" garbage. Why is Jesus being white not "artistic liberty" despite the Bible also including gods and fantastical elements?

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u/Harry_Saturn 13d ago

Lol yeah I bet dudes born 2000 years ago near Bethlehem were pale with long straight light brown hair and blue eyes. Yeah that sounds like a fact for sure.

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u/LimpAd1859 13d ago

Lol yeah only people who have blonde hair and blue eyes are white. Sometimes you people sound more racist than the KKK lmao.